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    [–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 9 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

    Installing debloated windows is not difficult at all.

    [–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

    And how difficult is it to keep it debloated? MS seems to be hellbent on pushing their crap into everyone's face.

    [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    Every Windows apologist: "I will keep current on the hacks to fix it forever, easy."

    I'm glad I invested the time learning Linux before I had kids and now have no time for anything.

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    [–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

    It's been fine for me so far.

    [–] polle@feddit.org 5 points 14 hours ago

    Its called Installing linux.

    [–] Zetta@mander.xyz 4 points 14 hours ago

    I would say it is, it's extra installation steps. Fedora I just click a handful of buttons and the OS is installed with no Spyware

    [–] arc@lemm.ee 24 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

    I don't even know what this graph is even supposed to mean. Bitch about Windows all you like but the installation process is typically very simple.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago

    There is no X axis so I'm going to assume it means potatoes per guinea pig

    [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

    I guess it means that no one here knows what Windows Debloated is and didn't read far down enough to see regular windows marked as very easy to install.

    [–] scholar@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    Boot off usb, create partitions, wait, spend five screens clicking 'no' on all of the options, unplug ethernet so it allows you to make a local account, wait, login, spend 15 minutes uninstalling all of the preinstalled nonsense, disable all of the advertising on the task bar and desktop, pretend the rest of the telemetry doesn't exist, download and install the latest drivers from each manufacturers website. Very simple.

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 14 hours ago

    You got a point up until you login.

    Afterwards, just run a powershell script that automatically uninstalls the bloat and disables all the stuff you don't want. Takes 30 seconds at most.

    Drivers are automatically installed via Windows update for everything except Nvidia.

    [–] Luccus@feddit.org 10 points 17 hours ago

    Man. Last time I just wanted to check if my new laptop was working properly, so I booted up it's preinstalled Windows. I literally had to look up how to get Windows to get me into Explorer without creating an account or connecting it to my network.

    It took me about 25 minutes and Windows was already installed on the damn thing.

    It took 15 minutes from booting a prepared Fedora stick to logging in.

    I honestly believe that, by now, Linux is no more difficult than Windows. People are just not used to the differences.

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    [–] bwv1004@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

    So by linux, you mean not every open OS? Can we add freebsd? Not the easiest but lots of users willing to help on a forum post.

    [–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 39 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

    Biased as fuck lol. Installing windows is not difficult. I did it first time at the age of 8 witn WIndows 98 and their newer installers are made so the general public can do it. And the bloat and spyware? Thats windows dude. Its not meant to be your OS, its meant to spy on your ass at the benefit of being familiar and (relative) easy to use. Anything you do to it post clean install is your own tinkering. Linux distros are great yall, but install difficulty is not a metric I would use to attack windows. Comparing between distros makes sense.

    [–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

    I kind of miss the Win98 install process. I did it so many times.. Tried making a Win98 virtual machine, but it just wasn't the same without all the real floppies. The boot disk, the drivers. The JazzJ Jackrabbit shareware. Good times.

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    [–] AnimalsDream 3 points 13 hours ago

    Why is Debian more difficult than Fedora? I could understand older versions, but these days they fixed pretty much all the small annoyances. No need to use the "nonfree" iso, because that's integrated into the installer. And post install sudo works as expected out of the box. I'd say they should be equal.

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