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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

a new non dlink router. Since the should be named f-link for a number of reasons.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Cool, so what brand is a good one to replace D-Link with?

[–] bokster@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 12 hours ago

Mikrotik and Ubiquity

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Tplink is widely supported by openwrt

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I have a fourth generation I7 with 8gb of ram running pfsense. Its free and you can't beat it for baked in capabilities. I run pfblocker ng and snort to block ads maleware and useless(to me) telemety that my non linux machines send in regularly. Microsoft, Amazon and others. I also have wiregurad for vpn access to my home. You can also install the ntopng package and get really good realtime information on what is going on on your network. For years I used open wrt but the two don't really compare. If you had to compare, openwrt is like a geo metro and pfsense is like a sports car.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Okay so the 2015 EOL ones, yeah I can understand telling the customer to update their shit. They shouldn't have to support nearly 10 year out of date stuff.

May 2024 EOL ones? Bruh. C'mon now.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Hopefully there’s a mistake in the article.

  • It does claim they were both discontinued this year and reached end of support this year. If that’s true, that’s huge and there should be consequences in the market.
  • if the article is poorly written and the only concern is they already passed end of support so are no longer being supported , that seems like a tautology.
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

I would love to know when they stopped selling it compared to the EOL. EOL should be at least 5 years past the last time the models were shipped out, maybe more. So if May 2024 was EOL I sure hope they weren't selling them after 2018.

[–] darkangelazuarl@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The DSR-150 is still being sold on Amazon under the D-Link store. Why the hell would you end of life something you still sell.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 1 day ago

Don't want to get lumbered with a bunch of old stock now, do you?

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

there should be list of companies that should be avoided and why, its impossible to keep track of everything like this

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

An idea for an app I came up with for a class once was one that let you scan a barcode of a product in like Walmart and get what parent company owns it, like how Nestle doesn't like to put their name on companies they bought (or not in big text anyways).
So if you want to avoid Coca Cola you could scan it and see who it's owned by and if that company matches one of the ones you have blacklisted

Fun fact, 'peace tea' is owned by coca cola

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago

There's an app called 'buycott' that does exactly that!

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, that list would be almost complete. It would be much easier (and realistic) to maintain its complement.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Be nice if companies had to open source firmware they are going to EoL.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Be nice?

It must become.law. we want to lower e-waste? Yen if companies stop supporting their products, het must open source all of it

[–] toothpaste_ostrich@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, be nice if the US didn't turn into a dictatorship in a few months. Don't see any company-unfriendly laws going in effect there any time soon. But perhaps in Europe there's still some chance of this happening.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not going to hold my breath that anything like this will happen in the current political climate, but yeah, that should be mandatory. Even ignoring the exploitive nature towards their customers, it creates a ton of unnecessary waste.

Exactly. As a consumer, when I buy a product, I'm not just buying the state of things at the time, I'm buying with an expectation of ongoing support. If they choose to not support it themselves, I should be able to support it myself.

In the old days, hardware came with schematics, so when the manufacturer warranty ended, customers could repair things themselves. That should extend to software as well, since software is just as much a part of the functioning of a device as capacitors and whatnot.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Long ago, D-Link was good but then they sold the company. Just like Alienware, Farbreware, Oaklies, etc.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 145 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

I mean, some of those EOLed nearly a decade ago.

You can argue over what a reasonable EOL is, but all hardware is going to EOL at some point, and at that point, it isn't going to keep getting updates.

Throw enough money at a vendor, and I'm sure that you can get extended support contracts that will keep it going for however long people are willing to keep chucking money at a vendor -- some businesses pay for support on truly ancient hardware -- but this is a consumer broadband router. It's unlikely to make a lot of sense to do so on this -- the hardware isn't worth much, nor is it going to be terribly expensive to replace, and especially if you're using the wireless functionality, you probably want support for newer WiFi standards anyway that updated hardware will bring.

I do think that there's maybe a good argument that EOLing hardware should be handled in a better way. Like, maybe hardware should ship with an EOL sticker, so that someone can glance at hardware and see if it's "expired". Or maybe network hardware should have some sort of way of reporting EOL in response to a network query, so that someone can audit a network for EOLed hardware.

But EOLing hardware is gonna happen.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 97 points 2 days ago (3 children)

all hardware is going to EOL at some point, and at that point, it isn't going to keep getting updates

EOLing hardware should be handled in a better way

Both of these are solved by one thing: open platforms. If I can flash OpenWRT on to an older router then it becomes useful again.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

If I can flash OpenWRT on to an older router then it becomes useful again.

well, only if it has more than 4 MB storage, 8 MB RAM. I'm practically swimming in older routers that can't even pass that requirement, and even today the cheaper, that is, more affordable options are still near that for some fucking reason.

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[–] art@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I can still use a 2003 AMD Opteron with the newest builds of Linux. It's an open standard. As long as the hardware still physically works. The only reason these pieces of hardware are EOL is because they chose to lock them down.

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[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 days ago (4 children)

There right you and i should just buy a new one

Of a diffrent brand

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 81 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree. Buy a new router that isn't Dlink.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Can highly recommend ASUS, most of their models can be flashed with custom firmware that is supported beyond EOL. And their EOL cycle is also pretty long.

[–] LoganNineFingers@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

Seconded. I didn't know the life cycle of a router but I replaced my asus router with another asus router recently. Not because it stopped working but because we have so many devices for our iot and I wanted some vlan. The old one is being repurposed at someone else's house

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Perfect time for users to buy something that isn't D-Link then innit.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

then what? the brand thats owned by a chinese company, and even designs not just the software but the hardware too according to Chinese interests, tp-link?
or the one that requires online registration to access the setup page (and so to replace the firmware) that is netgear?

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[–] DuckWrangler9000@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

A bunch of juvenile D-Linkuents. Get it? D-Link? Nevermind....

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