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Hey everyone, I'm new to Lemmy and just starting to figure this site out. I mainly moved here because of the censorship on Reddit where they didn't publish posts that included the slightest word not allowed by their filter and they removed/blocked lots of content. I wonder if it will be somewhat better here (on the official site it says "Censorship resistant - By hosting your own server, you can be in full control of your content.").

The weird thing I saw with Lemmy was when I wanted to sign-up on the "lemmy.ml" server instance that according to the official Lemmy Servers listing page is a "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers".

So I thought I try that one when it's from Lemmy's own developers. When I wanted to sign-up it required an application that you needed to fill out with one of the requirements being having to copy a sentence from the link provided which links to some article called "The Principles of Communism" which I thought was very odd for a site to do. I've never seen a site like this promoting some ideology that directly where it's part of the sign-up process to almost pledge to some political or religious ideology.

This seemed very sketchy to me. Does anyone know something about this?

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Main Lemmy devs are communist and aren't shy to enforce their views, which gets reflected in their instance, lemmy.ml, which is considered to be fairly tankie.

However, as Lemmy is federated, you can join any other instance and view whatever interests you without having to recite political literature to sign up.

In fact, the most popular instance is actually lemmy.world, which is not politically affiliated; although it defederated from certain instances, which might make you feel limited. I found lemmy.today as a way to be connected with anything and everything, from Hexbear to Beehaw, to, well, Lemmy.world

[–] Ambii@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Main Lemmy devs are communist and aren't shy to enforce their views

Their evil enforcement, our righteous peace keeping.

In fact, the most popular instance is actually lemmy.world, which is not politically affiliated;

Being "apolitical" just means they're neoliberal. Which tbh sounds perfect for OP.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Nah, I take similar issue with liberals who scream about their views everywhere, asked or not, and do their best to turn Lemmy into a place where politics (and, especially, American politics, as if it's a country with 99% of Earth's population) is everywhere. If Lemmy.world would ask people to recite Adam Smith, I'd absolutely be pissed.

For the record, I am communist, I just don't want to be bombarded with politics at every corner and I refuse to analyze crochet through the prism of the class theory. It is possible to abstain from politics on .world, but it is often hard to escape on .ml (thankfully, Linux communities are generally neutral), or Hexbear (although it tries) or, Marx forbid, Lemmygrad, latter being a straight up shithole where politics is everything, people are as politically uniform as clones, and you can be banned for saying Stalin could be wrong in some of his decisions (I'm serious, it happened).

People need to have a place to relax and unwind, and endless political circlejerk is not a good environment for that. Politics is important, but not really when people just proclaim the same things over and over again as a form of leisure.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a list on GitHub of instances by most federation. It's where I found mine.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Good option! Could you please share the link to the list if you still have one?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Sure, I'll PM you.

For anyone else, it's easy to find by search, but it feels like one of those things that could be ruined if it got too well-known.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

I read through the answers and I still can't believe it.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

The level of censorship is going to be different depending on your instance and where you are posting to. A lot of instances are managed by individuals or small teams out of passion. They can do as they please and don't have to pander to everyone for commercial appeal like Reddit or Tumblr. If someone doesn't like what they're doing they can join a different instance or create their own.

Instances can defederate from each other over these differences. A lot are defederated from the instance Exploding Heads because of their alt right content for example. From what I understand you can also report content to the administrators of your instance if it goes against their rules and I think they can remove it from appearing on your instance (or block the user that posted it). This isn't going to stop it from appearing elsewhere.

I also wouldn't say it's sketchy. It's just the overall political leaning of a lot of Lemmy is relatively left leaning and having those measures in place kind of demonstrates the vibe the instance is trying to create.

[–] Rookwood@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Think of Lemmy instances like a Discord server. You are joining a community. You are not joining up to a centralized corporate website. There are many lemmy instances. Shop around. lemmy.ml are Marxist-Leninist. It's what the .ml stands for. If that's not for you, find another instance.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago

hahahahahahahahahaaaaa

you're fucking kidding me

[–] starbrite@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 weeks ago

Ikr? I'm honestly tempted to go back to reddit, but the privacy concerns ick me out

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

lemmy.ml has earned itself a pretty bad reputation, although there are instances that are worse. They keep things clean enough to not get defederated, but you're not really in sane company on there.

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[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works -3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

why does the sign-up process on lemmy.ml involve having to copy a sentence from "The Principles of Communism"?

The OP is trolling.

Looks

Fuck me. It's real. I'm at a lost of words...WTF.

EDIT You can't escape censorship on Lemmy. If you run your own server with full Free Speech. You will have instances blocking you. Welcome to the modern Internet.

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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world -3 points 4 weeks ago

Hmmm, it seems that trolls have invaded AskLemmy.

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