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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 8 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

Just make it long with an intermission.

Lots of old musical films did that. Like Oklahoma!, Fiddler on the Roof, and Hello Dolly.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 34 minutes ago

They don't want to pay for the special effects for the sequel if the first movie bombs

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I saw the trailer yesterday at the theaters. Looks like hot garbage

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 3 points 11 minutes ago

I dunno i went to wicked.com and it looked pretty nice :]

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

It’s annoying when they do it for sure. And personally, I love a long movie. I’d rather watch a three hour epic than two 90 minute movies.

But I don’t have the attention span of a goldfish like many people seem to have these days. So it’s understandable that they feel the need to split, especially if there’s going to be kids watching it.

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 43 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Just you wait...

  • 2024: Wicked (Part 1)
  • 2025: Wicked Part 2 (Part 1)
  • 2026: Wicked Part 2 (Part 2)

Zeno’s triology: Part 1 Part 2 (Part 1) Part 2 (Part 2 (Part 1)) Part 2 (Part 2 (Part 2 (Part 1))) …

As long as you lose less than half the audience in every fraction, you’ve got to make infinite money.

[–] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

Someone's been to the Attack on Titan School of Numbering.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 38 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I really don't care anymore .... when a new movie is announced, I really don't care to do anything special to go out and see it. I just forget about it and wait a year or two and watch it as a stream on one of the services I already pay for.

It usually works out. If the movie was crap, everyone will tell me, I'll read about it or see low review scores for and just never bother watching it ever ..... or it's released on Netflix, Disney or Amazon and I watch it there a year or two later.

If it has great reviews and not available anywhere, then I just wait a year and rent it for $5 and watch it at home.

There's more than enough content to last a lifetime, I'm not spending any more money to watch the latest greatest movie as soon as it comes out.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 9 points 16 hours ago

Yep. Being a patient consumer is the way.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 102 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Oh lord. This did not need to be a two parter. Man, I miss movies being well contained 90 minute stories.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 75 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

The whole Broadway show can be done in a 2 hour-ish performance live, there is no justification to stretch this to two movies other than corporate greed milking every IP to the limit

[–] bollybing@lemmynsfw.com 40 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

I don't know, I thought the Broadway show was missing an interspecies love triangle.

And maybe a long scene with barrels.

[–] falidorn@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

Why does it hurt so much?!

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago

Because it was Reeeeeel!

[–] junderwood@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Lolol, best comment ^^

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 6 points 19 hours ago

From everything I've seen so far about Wicked the movie(s), yes that's exactly what it is.

The show is still touring folks, go see the show if you can

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Unless its a planned trilogy with 3 strong stories that could semi-standalone (short of context being lost without the other installments) then any movie that needs more than 2 hours should just be a mini series. You wanna tell a 4 hour long story about the Wizard of Oz? Fine, stick it on Netflix and anyone who wants to binge watch it can to make it “feel like a movie” and those who don’t will have 4 - hour long episodes.

[–] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

They wouldn't make 4 episodes, they'd make 8 and half of them would be filler episodes.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 7 points 20 hours ago

I'm starting to suspect that this is why I don't watch as many films as I'd like to. They've all become such a time commitment. Show me what you can do with an hour and a half!

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago

Wow I didn't know they cut it in half. After the whole poster thing I wasn't super enthused to see the film, after all I thought the play did amazing job, now I'm even less enthused.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 47 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

I’m still bitter about Spider-Man. Had no idea it was a part one until it ended. Maybe we just create whole movies with the 2+ hours we are using.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I was so psyched for that movie, but when I found out it was a part one, I lost interest and still haven't seen it

[–] caseofthematts@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It completely killed any narrative cohesion or pay-off by just ending. I remember thinking "it's been a really long time... how are they going to wrap this up?"

Turns out the answer is "don't wrap it up". It truly makes me not recommend it - though I had other issues with it aside from just that absurd decision. Rewatch the first again, instead.

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I agree the split in half angle was horribly handled but the movie wasn't totally ruined. ::: spoiler Narratively across the spider-verse was gwens story. It started with her and ended with her and miles was the backdrop for much of what happened spoiler ::: . I've seen the movie 3 times and I still love it. I don't think the take away is movies should be shorter because it had so much amazing visuals and story telling and really ramped up the expectations for the next one. The take away is don't lie to your audience pretending it's a single movie. Also don't lie and say the next one is coming out in 8 months, it's been 2 years lol. They were never gonna make that deadline.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Ah fuck you reminded me of the ending of Spiderverse. Probably at least 2 years away still...

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think they were even making part 2 when they ended it that way. Made it so much worse.

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

And the fact they said we'd have this to you by EOY. Absolute BS. Still no updated release date.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Same, caught it on a plane and was pissed I had to keep sitting there not knowing the actual ending

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Which Spiderman was a part 1 of 2?

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

The second spider-verse movie, I think. No mention of it being a trilogy but the story clearly ended setting up a third movie.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Those movies were already too long, IMO. The shortest of the two is 114 minutes. My son really liked them, but we had to break up each movie into more than one session.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

2 hours is reasonable for a movie. It’s when it goes to three that it needs to be a really good movie.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Oh I don't mind it as much; but, for an animated movie that's somewhat geared towards a wider age demographic range, it felt a bit too long for younger viewers.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This did have PART 1 early in reveal but then realized people wouldn't see it so they lied about this being a complete movie. Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning did the same thing

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago

People aren't going to see a movie that lies about it being a part 1 either, at least not after the first weekend when the word gets out

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I pretty sure it was public knowledge (even talked about in publicity) Dead Reckoning was two parts.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, they scrubbed it from the title once it was on digital/streaming for awhile.

Here’s what AppleTV looks like:

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think this has more to do with the next one being the Final Reckoning instead of "dead reckoning part 2"

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Well, that means they pivoted either way. Still strange, and still likely all about marketing and not wanting anything dissuading people from diving in.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

Damn, I planned on watching this too. No point now.

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I was surprised when Dune did it, not sure why they hid it.

[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Dune I can give a pass to because Frank Herbert originally wrote it as a trilogy and combined it into one book. It has pretty clear chunks breaking it up. They absolutely should have been better about advertising what it was, but it's hard to cover all that content succinctly

Wicked however is based off a 2 hour and 45 minute Broadway show with a 15 minute intermission. There is no good reason that a movie that can have tighter transistons, faster costume changes, and no reused cast should be longer than the Broadway show. Let alone twice as long and spread over multiple films

[–] keckbug@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Strictly speaking, the show is somewhat based on a series of novels. There’s an awful lot of story in those that is simply not present t in the musical, but could possibly have been included in the movie. I don’t know if that’s actually what happened, but there’s certainly a canon source for substantially more content.

[–] BowserBasher@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

From what I remember reading, yes there is some added content from the books that is not in the musical stage adaptation. I think it’s more of Elphaba’s childhood (which is quite a bit in the book).

Also remember reading that one of the reasons they decided to split it was because they couldn’t find a reasonable way to move on after “Defying Gravity” (This is the big number before intermission in the musical and really does feel like the end of that chapter) to the next scene in the film, so they decided to split the films too. Not saying it was the best way to go but maybe it means they can add more book related stuff to the second half too. The musical is sorely lacking there too.

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago

Deathly Hallows