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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy tells Suspilne media platform that under US president-elect Donald Trump the war in Ukraine will end quicker, according to Suspilne website.

Trump, who takes office in January, has said he’d seek a quick deal between Kyiv and Moscow.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz held a phone call earlier on Friday, the first direct communication between the leaders in almost two years and discussed the war in Ukraine.

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[–] Balthazar@lemmy.world 17 points 3 hours ago

I think Z must be playing the game: stroke Trump's ego.

[–] MrFappy@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So Trump insists that Ukraine surrenders and Zelenskyy goes along with it I assume is what’s being said here? Now, does Ukraine give up all their land or just what the Russians have captured so they can take the rest later?

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'd assume what they already captured. Also, I don't think they'll have any other option. At least it would be better than losing all the funding and weapons from the US and end up losing their whole country. Trump could very well throw a temper tantrum if they didn't agree on his "best deal in the history of mankind" as he might call it.

[–] matengor@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, the deal might contain a freeze-frame solution for the already captured territories. They would be declared demilitarized zones (under russian administration). In addition to that, Ukraine needs to agree not to join NATO (IMO for the next 20 years or so).

It would be a net victory for Russia.

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[–] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

Ukraine needs to agree not to join NATO for the next 20 years

This is just delaying the war; neither side will agree to this.

[–] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Are negotiations finally happening behind the scenes? Ffs could've just done this from the beginning. Fuck boris

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Fuck Boris. But not for that. Surrender is not an option.

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Because negotiations will be bad for Ukraine, but they are forced now cause trump.

[–] matengor@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] matengor@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 hours ago

Thanks. I'm not from the UK, I don't remember what Boris Johnson did in 2022.

[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm also curious about why they said that, but tbh, Fuck Boris (Johnson) is a fair thing to say pretty much anytime.

[–] matengor@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 hours ago