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There is also "constitutional convention" path to "a better union" (revoking current government). Secession when threatened by TX gets an ok vibe, but the "right wing states rights" gang sees invading California as completely hinged response, if they suggest it.

Its really unlikely mostly because we'd have to go authoritarian as fuck to get the maga traitors out before they could seriously damage us from within

The Sierra Nevada make a great natural barrier on one side, then the big ass desert to the south, so getting large amounts of anything in once we cut ourselves off would actually be harder than youd think

If we successfully negotiated with Mexico, Canada, or someone to back our asses up we might be able to manage it just off the idea that bombing us to oblivion is a really bad idea for your supply of quite a few crops & your major entertainment for the country as well as the busy ass ports on our shores, and that's before you consider how much the rest of the world would find such a move incredibly distasteful from a "holy shit what did you just do" aspect

All in all if ANY state can successfully pull it off, it's California, but it's not going to happen

Pretty unlikely, right?

Very. The last time, warfare was far less asymmetric than it is now. Millions of people would need to be well past the point of "dying for their values and ideals" before that would get traction politically.

What’s the process like?

There literally isn't one, or at least, not an official one; we're not the EU. One spot on a map says "no" and the bigger spot on the map around it says "LOL... oh wait you're serious?" Then they fight.

Also, the optics are very different for a state like California or any other economic powerhouse in the union. These places make up a huge chunk of the country's GDP, so losing them would cost a massive chunk of the tax base. Plus, that would reduce the overall coastline of the remainder. Combined these outcomes are strategically "very bad", further motivating the use of force to counter it.

States can not secede from the Union. That was Lincoln's rational for reforming the Union. Since states didn't have the right to leave, they had never left to begin with.

https://www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/secessiontableofcontents.htm

And before anyone brings it up, Texas cannot secede.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/01/29/texas-secession/