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If anyone can find more pixels for me i would appreciate it.

Thanks y'all.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 points 55 minutes ago

I thought y'all was just a gender neutral term combining you and all.

How would it be wrong or offensive to refer to refer to trans person as "y'all"? Genuine question.

[–] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Am I the only one who actually looked for more pixels for this guy?

Anywho, here you go my guy:

Edit: hmmm, Lemmy seems to be compressing it. Here's a link.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Y’all actually has gained particular traction in the north through the queer community. Most trans people I know use y’all even if their geographic location doesn’t indicate they should

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago

We are afraid to use common greetings now? How about we all refer to each other as "carbon units"?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 11 hours ago

Second person never has a gender in English. Saying "you" should also be fine, or "thee" if you feel like getting your quaker on.

Special requests notwithstanding - the platinum rule here is just to accommodate whatever you reasonably can.

[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 11 points 16 hours ago

How you fuckers doing, eh?

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Having exported myself from the deep South to Yankee land, "Y'all have a good one!" never fails to brighten the day of someone working a cash register.

In general, folks up here really like southern politeness. They think sugar wouldn't melt in my mouth. I get stopped in stores to talk all the time. Pretty frequently, they just give me a discount. I thought Yankees were supposed to be rude, but they're actually really nice in public.

[–] chillBurner@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago

Fwiw, second person is fine as long as there's no misgendering... It's like calling someone by their name

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago
[–] 0_0j@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Youse LOL, almost lost it when I heard it one time

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

All y'all never heard youse before?

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

People where I am from call everyone "you guys" - men, women, trans, doesn't matter, everyone is just "you guys" even when it's a woman addressing a group of women.

The literal meaning isn't gender neutral, but in actual practice, it 100% is.

As for "y'all" or "you all", I don't see how it could possibly be interpreted as offensive to any gender.

[–] kittyjynx@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

Dude is also situationally gender neutral. Saying "Hey dude" to a trans woman is misgendering her but exclaiming "Yo dude check this out!" or "Duuuude no way" is perfectly acceptable.

[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"You People" is the one to be avoided

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"howdy fuckers" is the opposite as it sounds bad on paper but in practice it goes over well (except with middle aged moms)

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"G'day cunts" goes over either extremely well or extremely poorly, with no in-between

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 12 hours ago

Ah the classic way to say hello in Australian.

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[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 71 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

"y'all" fills a legitimately useful gap the English language has. Other languages have a word like this.

Edit: also something cool I just found out, some languages have a way to disinguish "we" (you and I), and "we" (me and the rest of us, not you). It's called clusivity and is missing from European languages. Many indigenous languages of the Americas and Oceania have this, as well as Vietnamese and northern dialects of Mandarin.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

There is also β€œyou lot”

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[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 88 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I would have thought that β€œy’all” is even more so gender neutral and therefore less offensive/more accepted. It’s a contraction of β€œyou all” right?

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I mean, neither "you" nor "all" is a gendered term in any way

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (9 children)
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[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yall is the genderless southern hospitality greeting.

No bullshit no hate. Only yall

[–] stardom8048@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've used y'all intentionally as a gender neutral term for years in the south.

Lately I've even seen "y'all means all" used as a pride slogan in the south.

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[–] nadiaraven@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Y'all is the opposite of offensive for trans people. I lived in the south for a while, and I now use y'all specifically to be inclusive. I wouldn't say "you guys" is offensive to trans women, but I would say for me and likely other trans women it briefly brings to mind being misgendered in the past, so I would call it a small kindness to ube as gender neutral as possible.

[–] myusernameis@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yup, I specifically use y'all and recommend it to people (like my parents) to replace gendered phrases, and I'm not from the y'all zone.

Still up for debate, "dude" and "hun/hon".

*I'm a trans woman also

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I feel like I have watched in real time as Y'all has gained usage up in the Canadian Queer community.

I am old enough to still regard "hon" as demi hostile but "dude" seems to be drifting more and more gender neutral. At heart we may all just be ninja turtles all the way down

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a cis male, I've exclusively been called "Hun / Hon" by waitresses and gay men.

I've not been offended by any of them.

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

There's a hidden usage of "hon" from the history of the toxic trans communities message boards to mean "trans women who don't pass" and is used condescendingly. That usage is basically dead in the water and barely known outside of a pretty narrow sliver of the queer community but it can still get you a side eye in some places.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 points 4 minutes ago

Oof, noted.

I'll keep that in my head as something to watch for

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[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm from "you guys" but I've lived in "y'all" and now I'm forever team "y'all," regardless of where I'm living.

It's the best export from the south, except maybe Texas brisket and pecan pie.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Where's my fellow "yo'd'll"s at

[–] halfeatenpotato@lonestarlemmy.mooo.com 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

Oh....you know 😏

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 52 points 1 day ago (18 children)

I’m from Australia and I’ve started calling all groups of people yall because it’s gender neutral… very unaustralian term, and I love so much the irony of iconic southern terms being used to support trans activism

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[–] ninjaturtle@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not from the south and use "y'all" all the time. Find it very useful for filling in a gap that English has and slightly faster than saying "you all". Its gender neutral in my opinion.

Never once thought of it as offensive.

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