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I have always been curious about this. Did you get them to use other services or did they stubbornly refuse and you just accepted it? I am talking using Chrome, using Windows, using social media like Tiktok or Facebook or Instagram, etc. Bonus points if you have kids because that is even more work in the privacy realm

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[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I semi forced my partner to move to Telegram instead of Facebook Messenger to chat with me, but aside from that I kinda just accepted their own decisions

More for security than privacy, I also set up a Bitwarden account for them so they stopped ussing the same password on everything lol

[–] painful@mstdn.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@NENathaniel @MagneticFusion lucky! i tried to get my partner to use a password manager at LEAST and they refused with every inch of their life. maybe one of these days....

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Haha yea by best friend despises the idea for no rational reason

Some people eh haha

[–] thomask@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

IME something like Signal is an easy sell since it's simple and works well. For all the fair criticism about relying on phone numbers it makes the onboarding easy. For other things compartmentalising helps, e.g., "okay we'll collaborate using this cloud file storage but I personally will be accessing it through the browser while keeping most of my files in a SyncThing over here". While I self-host certain things I don't volunteer to do that for family/friends because it will be too frustrating for everyone if/when I let them down.

In this kind of situation there's a fine line between someone who maximises their privacy through tech decisions and someone who makes their "correct" tech choices their self identity. If you drift into the latter, being asked to compromise can feel like an attack, leading to overreacting and coming across as insecure and annoying. Not to psychoanalyse anyone in particular but sometimes I think people need a reminder.

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago

First of all, I try to offer her alternative and better ways of doing things. I selfhost a number of services that we both use and she also knows that she can come to me for advice and technical help.

I also got her a hardware key that is used together with a software password manager, to keep her passwords safe.

We also have a rule when it comes to social media. If she wants to post a picture of me, she needs to ask permission first.

[–] ebenixo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

setting home network to fwd all dns through paid nextdns, beyond that just fighting a war of attrition

[–] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For 9 years I've done nothing about it.

There were many reasons why. Now, though, she wants to take the first steps so we will start working on it together.

She switched to Signal and quit FB years ago, so some parts of the process are taken care of. I don't think she will give up her GMail...

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

you can set up email forwarding from Gmail to a new account if that makes things any easier for her

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

You know I don't actually mind sharing pretty much all my info if it's for the right reasons, as I have a deep trust in people in general, and only a few are authentic asshats in my experience.

The thing is that I also value my freedom and I don't appreciate people not genuinely asking for my consent to share. At the end of the day it is my data and I decide what will happen to it.

So sure, I am being tracked all over the place and there's no stopping it, but for me it's more a matter of integrity to express my desire for consent. In other words it's not necessarily effective, but it's the intent and expression that counts for me.

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