this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2024
0 points (50.0% liked)

English usage and grammar

364 readers
4 users here now

A community to discuss and ask questions about English usage and grammar.

If your post refers to a specific English variant, please indicate it within square brackets (for instance [Canadian]).

Online resources:

Sibling communities:

Rules of conduct:

The usual ones on Lemmy and Mastodon.. In short: be kind or at least respectful, no offensive language, no harassment, no spam.

(Icon: entry "English" in the Oxford English Dictionary, 1933. Banner: page from Chaucer's "The Wife of Bath's Tale".)

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

“You all” or “you both” or “you”or “you guys” seems less icky, like they don’t view you as a couple saying “you two”, like you are up to no good.

top 15 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] thenextguy@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee -3 points 5 days ago

I guess I just disagree.

[–] echo@lemmings.world 11 points 5 days ago

Like most of English, it's very situational and not automatically rude. It's mostly rude when being declarative (with no authority) and/or dismissive.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

“you two are so cute together”

[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What are you two doing here?

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

What are you doing here? Sounds just as rude.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I don't know the terminology, but I think it's because it's a direct indirect. It's like saying, "you there" instead of referring by name or using like, "excuse me sir/ma'am" or even skipping the direct call out altogether and saying, "could I get some help"

Basically it skips all formal addressing and is like using slang to people unfamiliar. If you are familiar then it's rude because you should know their names. I think the main time something like that is used is in an informal setting where nobody is actually familiar with each other, or in a scenario where immediate direction is required without prior familiarity.

[–] turtlepower@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Try, "the two of you" or "the both of you".

[–] echo@lemmings.world 1 points 5 days ago

the both of you

Uh, no... just, "both of you".

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I guess I was trying to frame my question as hearing someone say to a couple “you two” feels like they don’t view them as a couple but as 2 individuals or 2 people not as a couple. Just my feeling.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

'You two are a great couple'

What now...

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

When or if you ever addressed your parents, did you call and say- “How are you two doing?” I would not.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

I'd most likely say how are you guys doing, but I would have zero issue with you two. I find nothing offensive about it

[–] turtlepower@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

"The both of them"