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In his speech declaring victory in the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 6, Donald Trump made no mention of Ukraine yet alluded to just how consequential his second term in office will likely be for the country ravaged by Russia’s invasion.

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How does Trump plan to stop Russia's war against Ukraine?

That's the million-dollar question that is undoubtedly being discussed in capitals worldwide, not least in Kyiv and Moscow.

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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 46 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No real plan, submit to russian demands.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

There are concepts of a plan

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 12 minutes ago

Damn, that already feels like a million years ago. You didn't have to be a news junkie like me to see that quote and know that Trump lost the only debate the coward showed up to. Literally unfit to lead. Yet people just said "don't care, want boot!" and voted him in anyway. So embarrassed for my stupid country...

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

Signing off on russians demands in not a plan.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 51 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

He doesn’t. He’s going to pull back and let Russia do their genocide thing. It’s why he blocked Ukraine aid before this started, too.

Same for Gaza, and probably Taiwan as well.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

"Sure, I knew that voting for Trump meant more and worse genocides including on American soil, but I expected it from him. Seeing a genocide under Kamala Harris's tenure as not-president made me worry she wouldn't actually help once she became president. And then I'd be disappointed. Why would I want to possibly be disappointed when I can instead experience horrors that meet expectations?"

- Probably a couple million people who shot their foot with their own cut-off nose as ammunition

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

😂😅 so true

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Where are all the gEnOcIdErS now?

Oh, they were just shills...

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 hours ago

We will almost certainly see more bad news in context of global democracy and rise authoritarianism/plutocracy. Unfortunately, it seems that the US is entering a permanent oligarch-fueled "bread and circuses" phase (Big Macs and iPhones for the modern equivalent?).

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No. But other people’s suffering has never mattered to him.

[–] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Never mattered to the Democrats either. No matter who has been in power America's geopolitical ambitions are all that mattered. To Trump, he is the only thing that matters.

[–] IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 2 points 51 minutes ago

Trump's vision is so myopic that he can't see beyond his own nose. Same for is ability to care. If the US reneges on promises made as detailed in the Budapest Memorandum what chance will they have in other such promises. Countries are watching. This is doubly ironic as Trump keeps talking about nuclear war.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

While this is true, with the US, their geopolitical ambitions have sometimes aligned with positive developments (Germany, Japan, the Baltic nations and Poland in relatively more recent times). The same cannot be said for say Russia or China.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The same cannot be said for say Russia or China.

How so? Russia doesn't really have global ambitions anymore, but China is invested in seeing a larger global middle class and a weaker Western neocolonial hold over Africa. This can and has lead to positive developments.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

China's engagment in Africa is just as neocolonial as Western engagement if not more.

Why is Lemmy so full of degenerate LARPers ?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Huh? Okay you'll need to provide some evidence if you're saying it's anything as neocolonial as what France is doing to these countries.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 minutes ago

My man, did you not catch the tone in my previous message? What makes you think I am going to bite and engage with your bullshit?

I will give you some unrequested advice. We both know that you've never lived in Asia or Africa. You don't know any local language. You don't have friends or family there and you don't even have close friends who've lived there. You have no fucking clue about colonialism or China.

Reading some BS online or watching some videos (I highly doubt you read books or research) is not going to make you sound convincing or even improve your argumentation skills.

For example, you started off with some world salad about China being interested in a global middle class. That's an immediate red flag that reveals that you know jack shit. And I am not talking about the actual content of your arguement.

If god forbid you actually buy into your own BS (and you're not just bored and LARPing), just assume I am brainwashed and I hate evidence or whatever else comes into your head.

We good?

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

That’s very cynical but not entirely wrong.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago

He plans on ending it by ending Ukraine.