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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Don't come to Canada. We don't have enough housing for the people already here. Most of you will die of exposure during your first winter here.

Go to Mexico instead. I'm sure they'll take you.

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Canada talking a lot of good shit in posts like this lately. Don't get me wrong, I grew up near the border and I love Canada, but don't pretend it's not just a handful of resource extraction companies stacked in a trench coat pretending to be a country.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

We rank above the US is virtually every metric. Education. Healthcare. Life expectancy. Lower infant and maternal mortality. Standard of living. Quality of life. Safety. Religious freedom. Personal freedom. Better place to do business. Better place to headquarter a business. Better beer. Maple syrup.

But by all means, keep telling yourself whatever you need to tell yourself to get through the day.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 37 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

To be fair, other countries want US citizens even less than the US wants* immigrants.

Do people actually think that the US is alone in anti-immigration sentiment? Do they think it’s different because they’re American?

The US is the one with a giant monument to immigration, at whose feet is a plaque that reads:

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

And if they, of all people, are now against that, what makes Americans think anyone else will want them? It’s delusional.

Many countries shut down immigration to Americans in 2016, after the first round of trump’s policies, and they haven’t opened back up yet, partly because there was a solid chance of this happening again.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

???

It's easy as piss to emigrate from America as long as you:

Are white, middle class, not provably disabled, not gay, with no criminal history, with at least one million in assets, as long as you don't have a history of activism, already are hired by a local company, and have a STEM degree.

See?

Easy.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I checked out Canadian requirements. The first stage of screening asks your name, email and year of birth - which only goes back to 1970. So apparently I'm too old.

[–] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 hours ago

That number specifically indicates that they're probably using a positive integer amount of seconds since the epoch (jan 1st, 1970). Rookie mistake.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Hey, that’s not entirely fair. Russia is more than happy to accept Americans, so long as they’re willing to be cannon fodder for a while. I’m pretty sure they’re not even putting an age limit on it. If you survive, you may even get a small flat afterwards. And if you don’t, they may give your parents money for a Lada (providing they were Russian citizens already).

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

IMO any American who wants to emigrate to Russia is welcome to become topsoil in Ukraine.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The US wants immigrants, MAGA doesn't want immigrants. And I can fully understand anybody not wanting MAGAs. I wish they would evaporate off the face of the Earth.

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Don't worry. He'll be coming for Canada. You already have MAGA lovers up there. Who's going to stop him? The Canadian military?

[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

It already well on it's way depending on your province. People have moved out of Quebec because of the intolerance going on there. Hell, I know a streamer who moved because someone threw a fucking brick through their window at his wife who moved there from the USA. Not because she's black or colored either, because she's white as a piece of paper.

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[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 107 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Canada’s gonna swing the same way next year so you’re not really escaping from anything anyways

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think that this is an import from the US kind of thing, or more of a global trend?

[–] kaosof@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

Definitely seems like a global trend.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Already swung super anti-immigration as of earlier this year, so the move to Canada plan isn't going to be as easy either

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[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

It's not just that, people are acting like things are better in other countries. Like, name ONE country that has not gone off the deep end and ended up on the right recently. One major player. I'll wait. There is no utopia waiting for you in those other countries because they don't want you there and acting like you will be accepted as a refugee is foolhardy. The USA is a shit show right now, but we also don't know the future. It looks bleak right now because of the information we have RIGHT NOW. If you want to move out of the country, be my guest, but don't act like it's going to automatically be better, it's just going to be a different kind of shit show.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 30 points 23 hours ago (15 children)

You can outlive this. There's a good chance he can't. Be strong, and look out for those more vulnerable than yourself.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

My concern is that the train is still running at full speed even if the driver has died of a heart attack.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

Oh boy, President JD 'couch enthusiast' Vance!

[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

That's just it, I'm a white male, I know I'll be comparatively fine. It's not really me I'm worried about.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Thank you for this. It’s more helpful than you know.

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's not much better over here anyways, anti trans laws and oil industry dick sucking is ramping up more than ever.

[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 hours ago

UK here, get off our lawn. Transphobia is our chief export.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What anti trans laws are you refering to? I wasn’t aware of that.

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Alberta is about to pass some pretty serious anti-trans legislature that a lot of people are protesting, but we cant really do anything (legally) to stop them

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[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 40 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Well, then kick him out. Or maybe guillotine him out, so that he doesn't return.

Like, if people were actually that irked that he won, they'd be doing something. But no, from what I hear El Trumpo actually won the popular vote: the US wants to be fascist. Maybe Canada too. (No, not as in the US wants to be Canada... although that'd be an improvement...)

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So far, it's only been his supporters trying to kill him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

At least we'll always have the ironic laugh at how the US, a country with guns for everyone, didn't even get a tin medal in shooting the Olympics, and how the US, a country with the 2nd Amendment, can't even kill a tyrant right.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

I've looked into it, believe me. New Zealand too. My wife is too rooted to our house, and we have an adult daughter still living at home with medical problems that would probably disqualify her.

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I love the assumption that other countries would just take American emigrants.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's a shit ton harder than people realize.... well at least to go anywhere in the industrialized world. Unless you are independently wealthy or have an extremely high demand job.

Billy Bob who's career is working at McDonalds isn't going to get approved.

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