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Because you now did it to yourself.

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[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 32 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (9 children)

The dem message of "we won't do better but the other guy will do worse" failed. It was a bad message and it lost them the election against a terrible candidate. Voters need to be motivated to vote and that message isn't motivating enough

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

Right, it wasn't the media harping on every single thing the Dem candidate did wrong while apologizing and making excuses for Trump at every turn. Going on and on about Biden's age and then never bringing up age again once Biden dropped out of the race. No it's all the Dems fault 🙄

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[–] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 9 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

That was never the democrat's message.

What you are describing is the disinformation that you fell for.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

Harris's nomination acceptance speech was around 70% right wing positions. Undeniable.

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[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 65 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (9 children)

I mean it's quite different. Hitler wasn't elected (at least not prior to seizing power and effectively banning all opposition). Instead the Nazis got a plurality of just 33% in the Reichstag election, which led to failure to form a government. Then Hitler somehow convinced the center right President to grant him powers which he promptly started abusing and the rest is history.

In other words, 1930s Germany can kind of defend itself in ways the US can't.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago

He got elected deomocratically. In the German system, one party gaining the absolute majority is very rare and coalition governments are the norm. The cancellor is usually the candidate of the party with the largest percentage in that coalition. In the case of the NSDAP, that was Hitler. The conservatives formed a coaltion with him because they were sure the conservative president would be able to keep Hitler in check. Unfortunately, said president did the opposite and was instrumental in giving Hitler absolute power.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 13 hours ago

Donald Trump just won with a plurality of around 31% of eligible voters

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 65 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (17 children)
  1. Get organized. Join a Leftist org, find solidarity with fellow comrades, and protect each other. The Dems will not save you, it is up to the Workers to protect themselves. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there's an org you like more near you and join it, the point is that organizing is the best thing any leftist can do.

  2. Read theory. A good primer is Blackshirts and Reds. It will help contextualize what fascism is, what causes it, and how to stop it. I can offer a good introductory reading list for Marxism if you'd like, but this is a good starting point.

  3. Aggressively combat white supremacy, misogyny, queerphobia, and other attacks on marginalized communities. Cede no ground.

  4. Be more industrious, and self-sufficient. Take up gardening, home repair, tinkering. It is through practice that you elevate your problem-solving capabilities. Not only will you improve your skill at one subject, but your general problem-solving muscles get strengthened as well. Theory guides practice, which sharpens theory to be reapplied to better practice.

  5. Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others. The Democrats will not save us, we must save each other.

  6. Be persistent. If you feel like a single water driplet against a mountain, think of the Grand Canyon. Oh, how our efforts pile up! With consistency, every rock, boulder, even mountain, can be drilled through with nothing but steady and persistent water droplets.

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[–] yrmp@lemmy.world 112 points 1 day ago (21 children)

First they came for the illegal immigrants and I did not speak out because I was a legal citizen.

Then they came for the LGBTQ members and I did not speak out because I am straight.

Then they came for the non-whites and I did not speak out because I am white.

Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You should amend this because it's not just "illegal" immigrants they are after. The rhetoric around the Haitians in Ohio is clearly directed at any and all immigrants legal or not.

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[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 36 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

You think we're not just as confused how it happened this time?

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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 168 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (16 children)

Women: he told you he's taking your rights away and is already letting you die in hospital waiting rooms

Tradesman: he told you overtime and unions are gone

Veterans: he told you he hates you, pissed all over the sanctity of Arlington and is gutting the VA

Hispanics: he told you you and yours are getting deported and doesn't care if you're legal or not

Those on social security, Medicare, Medicaid or ACA: he told you he's cutting/gutting these

Anyone with ties to Palestine: he told you he's going to help Israel finish the job

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 17 hours ago

None of that is going to happen to me cause I'm one of the good ones. /s

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[–] don@lemm.ee 52 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Irrelevant. The people who tried to stop it already know how Hitler came to power, and the ones who should ask how it happened — the ones you should address your post to — either don’t care or actively want another Hitler.

But hey, at least you slammed the people who tried their hardest, rather than actually address conservatives themselves, which would have required you actually confronting them. Glad you feel better, though.

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[–] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 20 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Its a buffet for the leopards. They'll coast on Biden's policies for a bit, when Trump plans take affect we'll see.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 118 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Baffling. We already rejected this guy once when he had less baggage. His first term was objectively terrible.

So, I guess America has kings now, because Trump will never see another day in court for his crimes, and he's not going to prison.

I just don't have the strength anymore. I'm teetering on the brink of agreeing with the accelerationists and just letting it happen. The faster Trump ruins the country, the sooner we can rebuild it while we still have time to enjoy it.

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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 82 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Don't think it won't happen to you. When the incoming wave of Ukrainian refugees hits Europe, the populists that have already been growing in popularity will make their move. With the U.S. fallen, a lot of money and attention has been freed up to destabilize other countries.

It's happening in Italy. It's happening in the Netherlands. It's happening in France. If you think you are ready for it, remember that we thought the same.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 162 points 1 day ago (12 children)

It doesn't matter.

Europeans know the history of fascism much, much better than Americans do and they're electing right-wing leaders too.

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[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

We need a solution to this, because honestly the US just lost its democracy.

It's 1933.

Any ideas on ways out of this?

Community for further discussion: !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

My one takeaway from this is that primaries are important. Republicans held a primary, nominated an incomprehensibly stupid candidate, and managed to win. ~~Dems held no primary~~, Biden strong armed his way into the de-facto nomination for a second term, and was replaced by his VP when he imploded on the campaign trail. At no point did Dem voters ever get to have a say in their candidate this year. Not that Kamala or Joe are bad candidates, but clearly, they're lacking something if Trump was able to win again after changing nothing from 2020.

So, the DNC fucked us again and we got Trump a second time in exactly the same way.

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