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"Translation: all the times Tesla has vowed that all of its vehicles would soon be capable of fully driving themselves may have been a convenient act of salesmanship that ultimately turned out not to be true."

Another way to say that, is Tesla scammed all of their customers, since you know, everyone saw this coming...

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 12 points 2 days ago

The thing with (full) self-driving is that the edge cases are the challenge. Driving is the Pareto Principle really cranked up: (fully made up numbers) 2% of the driving represents 90% of the difficulty. And highway driving is a much simpler task to be automated than driving on a stroad, weird intersections, unprotected turns, etc.

I think we are a long ways off from full self-driving, and highway driving capabilities of current vehicles only address what is by far the easiest scenario. And even there those capabilities are limited from what I've seen.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I feel like this is a recurring theme for the silicon valley billionaires and we reached "Peak Bullshit" at NFTs and ever since then one thing after another has hit wall after wall

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's just trying to sell the upgrade so people will throw away their old cars and buy new ones. But that already happened with the last version and it still can't do it. This won't be any different with him in charge. Put an engineer in charge, invest in the tech, and you might get there. But Tesla is not going to ever get there while it needs to sell every incremental advance in tech rather than spending time and money on lots of iterations of prototypes that don't need to be mass produced.

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[–] aniki@lemmings.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My Leaf can handle itself on the highway and it's the perfect amount of self driving that I want. I also didn't need to pay half the price of the leaf for the privilege.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Over Promise under deliver

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Surprised if he is truly capable of even this level of self reflection.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Billionaires also fall into the Gartner hype cycle. And convincing a billionaire there’s an opportunity to automate workers out of a job is a quick way to get an injection of cash.

It’s going to be generations before we are actually able to automate most labor. But long, long before that AI will be capable enough to replace overpaid CEO’s.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I thought he said they would replace the modules to support FSD?

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The self refers to the person driving the car

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 1 day ago

Yay for OpenPilot

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