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Truly a pretty terrible place for any kind of social activity.

People here are super self righteous and unwavering in their beliefs, quick to insult others and be generally bitchy, pedantic and quick to dogpile. Worst of all while still usually slightly wrong about a thing, but unwilling to hear it.

It's basically the worst parts of reddit users where we have boiled it down to the most affluent or socially insecure.

Even if it's as simple as a question people jump to defend their position with insults rather than answer it cause they get worried the person might be confused and it's best to just make sure it's a closed community as quick as possible.

This isn't an open community it's a private gated one where everyone jumped the fence and is scared that the wrong person might have come in with them.

Condescending is not welcoming.
Upvoting cause they are your in group isn't community.
Berating outcasts cause you at least don't feel like them is still bullying.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Hey man they are just morons and downvotes. Being offended is simply the cost of free speach. U can choose not to give a fuck or u can choose to take it personally its up to u.

Hexbear, grad, and ml are fucked so u can disregard anything they say or do. If people arnt engaging in good faith call em out on it or just call em a cunt up to u.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

I call them a cunt and I get yelled at for being unprofessional in a social media platform and I get banned for them being an an instigator that purposefully states incorrect and inflammatory things.

It has happened. I've been called a lot of things and responding to it saying it's bait from an asshole got me banned for like 7 days months ago on a lemmy.world news thread. The person got upvotes and praise for sticking up for themselves.

This platform likes the bad faith and calling them out is an attack on the in groups that like it. This is a large part here and why I think it's bad at being a welcoming community.

I want it to move in a better direction not just pretend that it's fine and ignore it. But I'm coming around to not caring. Not thinking about things seems to be standard, and safer for people's lives.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 14 minutes ago

This is only a problem for you because you arnt going along with the narrative.

Stop thinking for yourself do as your told or you will be punished for your thought crimes.

In all seriousness tho i think the more people of differing political views the more the hate will be equallity divided making the pile on not as bad.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I get where you're coming from. This platform made me realize once and for all that I'm not a leftist, despite thinking of myself as one for most of my adult life. But I'm definitely not a conservative either, so I'm rudderless. A lone wolf.

Anyways, to the original point, there are a lot of toxic people here. They were on Reddit too, but there was a lot more to dilute their presence. Be active with your blocklist, and use an app that allows you to filter words and instances. Those few actions will drastically change your experiences on Lemmy. It changed mine enough that I went from being an inch away from leaving forever, to actually enjoying most of my time here. And heck, I learned something about myself in the process, and continue learning every day. No sense in only being around people you agree with, that'll just stunt your growth as a person.

[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago

I think it depends on the community. All the ppl at sdf.org are pretty cool though. Maybe your instaces is full of annoying people and you only see that in your feed.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

You forgot where their feelings about a subject hold more weight that your facts. Its usually over some childish pearlclutching.

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I have a different experience. I have not blocked anyone or amt instance. I am om lemmy.world, so that might be it?

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It has some crazy, but I've found it refreshingly with it in many ways. People here generally understand that getting paid enough money instead of ripped off by a billionaire is good. The stuff you shouldn't have to filter for.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah the topics aren't necessarily the problem it's how it's not a conversation most of the time it's just snarky fighting to be the most right or up voted cause they act like they are right.

I would hope it's not these topics making people shutty or else that doesn't bode well for them.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Twitter made me hate people. FB made me realize just how dumb people are. Reddit made me realize that there are no good guys in positions of power. Bluesky is actually pretty chill. But I prefer this format. A forum style.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

checks profile

I can see why you hate everyone here. 🫠

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What? If you got stuff say it.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well that's piqued my interest so I glanced over your comments. I have to point out that yes, people respond badly to you sometimes, reminding me of reddit.

You should know that you seem unaware that your comments occasionally have a pugnacious or even bellicose tone, not necessarily intentionally mind you, but noticeable. Sometimes dismissive or contemptuous attitudes leak out and hostile replies state they are responding to that. It's not simple bullying, it's buttons being pushed.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you! I actually appreciate the honesty. That's something I can work with.

Maybe, hopefully.

I don't think it is far different from the snark I see but I don't think I should emulate that I guess if I hate it when done to me. I just don't like having to take the high road just cause I apparently invite it.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I realized a few days ago that I was letting the overwhelming negativity from this platform bleed over into other areas of my life, and I had to put that shit in check immediately. It sucks feeling like you're always stuck being understanding and taking the high road while everyone around you is determined to burn things to the ground, but ultimately it makes you a better person and results in a better life and sense of self.

[–] bighatchester@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

One thing I noticed is alot of people on Lemmy think that everything on the internet should be free and have no ads. In a perfect world this would be great but most of the sites people regularly use are expensive to operate and wouldn't exist. I do use as blocker and pirate stuff sometimes but I also pay for YouTube premium and a couple other services. Plus I go to movie theaters whenever there is a movie I really want to see and support.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (26 children)

I see your instance is federated with both Hexbear and Lemmygrad. Going to gesture vaguely at that being the root of your problem (or at least > 90% of it).

Blocking instances helps, but you'll still see users from there in the comments and in other communities (not on the blocked instance). Some UIs will hide users from blocked instances. I know Tesseract does (I wrote it to do that), but others might as well.

My experience here has been pretty great after getting my blocklist and feed curated.

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[–] BonerMan@ani.social 6 points 2 days ago

Get a instance that doesn't federate with .ml instances or hexbear, block the Lemmy.world political communities and you can enjoy Lemmy mostly without assholes.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

+1 for unpopular. I think planet earth is worse platform.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah well you try implementing physics to prevent activity from being contrived!

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Must be a different Lemmy you're talking about. My experience has been nothing like that and generally quite positive.

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[–] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

At this point, i’m having a decent time here but I also have a decent block list, an instance blocked, and another mostly blocked.

I don’t mind the commies too much, since I’m an ancom, though I have argued with them on my previous main account a lot, and it did get exhausting since some communities dogmatically support specific arguments that have been proven wrong a hundred years ago or are based on strawmen, or fundamental misunderstandings, or on viewpoints that haven’t been mainstream since the 1800s.

Lemmy has changed a bit since I joined when reddit announced their api changes. It used to be more radical, but I’ve seen a lot more centrists and center left folks join, and I think the mixing of that has caused a fuckton of drama.

Though I don’t see a lot of insults anymore. I’ve been insulted a million different ways, but since march or april I’ve seen a reduction in people calling me a slur or people calling me a fascist or trumper even though my position is to the left of theirs. I remember being insulted incessantly after October of last year.

I tend to be careful where I reply with political talk (AKA not on .world or most hexbear communities) but the non political communities are wonderful. I fucking love the queer communities here (even on hexbear) and the open source communities are also great.

I just hope the toxicity drops to what I remember around June or July of last year once elections end.

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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I find that if you avoid the political and news forums and some of the meme forums, you avoid 90% of the assholery that exists on Lemmy. But that’s true for Reddit as well and I think is probably just a truism about the internet in general.

It’s not really the people, I think, that is the problem; it’s that people feel strongly about politics and when they have the anonymity and disconnection of the internet to free them from true social accountability, we express ourselves in increasingly overconfident and arrogant ways, which obviously pisses other people off and creates arguments. In other words, the internet is ideal for festering toxic debating environments. Our psychology just wasn’t meant for it.

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