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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is still kind of a meme candidate, so I think a lot of it might be that. Kamala is obviously better to someone that knows but she's also "boring"

[–] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I tried to meme her but everyone thought I was trolling

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago

So close? Sad.

[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago

Thanks to the electoral elementary, Trump still wins another term in the principals office.

[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

Well, at least we're consistently awful

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

What kind of f-ed up kid votes for Trump?

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 27 points 14 hours ago

The kind whose parents watch media that demonizes the Democrats.

[–] ECB@feddit.org 20 points 14 hours ago

This is 90% just a proxy for how their parents will vote.

Its only a very small portion of kids that age who are going to have substantially different views than their parents (not that they don't exist!)

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

The kind who never knew the world before he got into politics, and the kind who think the things he says are funny memes and want to sow chaos in a poll that doesn't have any real weight. If they had to be serious, more of them probably would be, but it's not unusual for kids to goof off and be chaotic when they know their voice doesn't have direct influence on anything that matters.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago

The people who voted for him in 2016 are raising kids. Once might even call it grooming but that's a silly word.

[–] Intergalactic@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (4 children)

48% to Trump is embarrassing. This country is failing our children.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

This country is failing a lot of people. The only ones who really benefit are the rich.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 60 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately kids parrot the hate and political leanings of their parents until they grow older at least

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

Can confirm. Had a 16 year old work part time with me for a few weeks over the summer. Pretty cool kid, but yeah... Trump came up a couple times and both times he just repeated the bullshit that he'd heard from his parents. Sad shit.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Really shows where the problem lies. Indoctrination. Results not much different than the national poll.

[–] mostdubious@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

it's that easy. the children learn what we teach them. think of the world we could make if these kids got taught the right things. purge these conservative fucks already so we can save the world.

[–] catbum@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The worst part is knowing that they're (most likely) just listening to the loudest voter in their household even if other opinions manage to exist in their family.

I only remembered my dad talking about Bush or scoffing at this or that "donkey" thing so I thought it was Bush and the elephants I was supposed to like. I know I would have voted as such in something like this because I didn't know any better at 6-8 years old, although I'm not finding the kids' age ranges in this mock election. Anyway, I still didn't know any better in junior high, I remember voting for Bush again in a 7th grade social studies poll on the 2004 elections. I recall the teacher saying even the results amongst one class were usually a pretty accurate reflection of the actual election results, right down to the goob who voted for Nader.

It took me going to college in the purplest damn section of a pretty red state for me to come to terms with what I actually believed and felt about people and politics. Further education was definitely key, and intertwined with that, it opened me up to people. Just talking to people in an environment where you're all on essentially the same operating level day to day is huge.

My dad kept doing his thing in the small town where everyone knew everyone and somehow managed to sleep with everyone, too. He turned into a Trumper. I did my thing and I admit, it took me a lot of those four years of working on projects and getting pissed about loans together but really just enjoying life with a modestly diverse, pretty tolerant student body (still a lot of white raised-as-protestant types) to undo the damage of a conservatively skewed and Catholic childhood. But I can tell you that by 2014 I was annoyed at myself for not caring about the 2012 election, this first time I could vote. And you can guess I most certainly never even considered supporting Trump or any of the terrible things he represents when he suddenly-to-me showed up.

Would it make any reasonable sense for my dad to go to college at his age? No, probably not. But how do we get people to "simply" live around and be exposed to more people with relatively little prejudice in social status?

Do we just ... Idk where I'm going with this I got high but wait just a tick here did I just reason myself into communism ^fuckity^^shit^

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 173 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That 48% makes me so fucking sad...

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 98 points 1 day ago (9 children)

It’s mostly kids mimicking their parents feelings. Which is not the MOST sad. But still not great.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think this is much sadder than just the parents thinking like this. Kids should get to be kids and start their lives unencumbered by their parents' hatred and bitterness.

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[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Had some people in a duel enrollment (collage level) class tell me last Friday that they'd vote for trump because "he's an asshole but I like his policies"

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

"What policies?"

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Don't worry, at the collage level they're just bringing a bunch of pictures together

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, now we know why the conservatives are so hell-bent on defunding the education system In America…

It’s for votes!

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

It's also why they're opposed to lead pipe removal. They'll never admit it, but lead poisoning is a major contributor to why people are stupid enough to vote for them.

[–] zenharbinger@lemmy.world 268 points 1 day ago (1 children)

48% of these kids frighten me.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 226 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Nah, it's just kids parroting their parents views. I did the same thing as a child, and I'm about as far left as you can get as an adult.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well in that case, 48% still frightens me.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Don't worry. It all comes down to the hands of like 100k voters in a few random swing states.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

That's all? I feel so much better now...

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[–] flicker@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

The thing about this is, I was a kid in 1996 when Bill Clinton ran against Bob Dole.

Our whole elementary school had a big educational event about the election. Bob Dole and Bill Clinton both sent personalized videos to our schools, explaining what they stood for, and we had a mock election.

My grade overwhelmingly went for Bill Clinton. (I want to say, he had a very easy-to-understand platform regarding the importance of education, and the impact it would have on us, the future electorate. And Bob Dole was... Bob Dole.)

Did I mention I grew up in a very Roman Catholic, very hardcore Republican house? That I grew up in Oklahoma, a red state?

I wasn't the only kid standing up to my parents over the results!

I guess what I'm saying is, if the children are aware, and still choosing Trump, we need to know why. Kids don't have a problem voting against their parents, as long as they understand the issues. And if they don't understand the role they play in their country, we should be extending further education.

I really think that we are failing our children. Our educational system is disgraceful.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 205 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But was that enough to win the Nickelodeon's Kids Electoral College?

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 111 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It wouldn't be an electoral college in this case. It would be an electoral... middle school?

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 day ago

Take your upvote and leave.

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[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 105 points 1 day ago (4 children)

When Harris wins she needs to weaponize the military against the children who chose Trump. It's only fair.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Watch this be correct and nickelodeon replaces Nate Silver as the new polling god.

[–] mister_flibble@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Losing candidate gets slimed.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago (7 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Pick_the_President

"Since 1988, Kids Pick the President has accurately predicted the winner of each election with the exceptions of the 2004 and 2016 presidential elections."

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 96 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, those two are not good ones to get wrong.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it was 2000 and 2016 I'd be more concerned

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Parents voting or telling the kids how to vote.

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