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Are you under the impression that letting Trump win isn't sacrificing millions of Palestinians and migrants and Black people?
You're constructing a scenario where Kamala Harris is a step down, in terms of Gaza/migrant/black, but it was worth it because of trans rights. I don't think there was anyone in the conversation who was saying that. We're voting for her because she is an improvement over the only other possible option in this election at this point, by about a 1,000 mile margin.
She's not gonna do squat about police brutality. She's not gonna close the concentration camps for migrants. She's not gonna stop the genocide at Gaza and Lebanon. She's not gonna defend trans rights. She's not gonna undo Trump's policies upheld by Biden. What are you even voting for? The election is Trump versus Trump-lite-but-female. Trumpism will win the election either way.
Having to clean the cat box is unpleasant, so I’m going to eat all the cat shit, rub my face all around in it, then get in the bathtub and pour all the cat box litter all over myself and hit myself in the head with a hammer until I pass out. I call it, “cleaning-the-cat-box-lite-but-in-the-bathtub.” I’ll have to clean the cat box either way.
You have no power, don't you see that? You're powerless. The fascists already won and you have no choice but to choose between fascism and fascism. Revel in your powerlessness.
That’s from Bobby Sands, right? I know I’ve heard that quote somewhere before, on the importance of giving up. I think I might get it framed and put it on the wall of my study.
Sometimes giving means doing nothing, and sometimes giving up means you stop playing one game to play another.
You should never give up and do nothing. But playing a losing game sometimes has the same result as giving up and doing absolutely nothing. But giving up, and choosing a new game gives you the agency to play a game that will have a better outcome.
But at what point is playing that losing game doing more harm than good?
You’re so right. You know, I remember Ernst Thälmann was telling me all about that, last time I saw him. He had a much better game to play, it was sounding really good. Hey, what happened to him? I haven’t seen him around, even after the war’s been over.
I’m sorry to break it to you, but your dear friend was executed under personal order of hitler for daring to try and play a game that didn’t involve fascism.
I should introduce you to subcomandante marcos sometime. He’s an interesting guy. Last time I saw him he was enjoying retirement in the mountains of Chiapas, having dared to play a different game and fought to liberate indigenous people in mexico, and worked with them to create a better world. The justice system they made is so good that people from outside the zapatista territories will use it to resolve their disputes and problems. He is living under a better system for having dared to play a game that doesn’t involve systemic oppression and is destroying a lot of hierarchies.
Now then, i’m gonna be going to bed soon, i’m traveling a few hours to meet up with a Palestinian friend I met in a protest a few months back for a big protest in a bigger city. He’s not exactly a big fan of harris, and while his immediate family is safe, it’s certainly taking a toll on him as he watches news stories of his country being bombed to dust by israel, and his people be ethnically cleansed.
He also has this idea that you gotta play a different game sometimes, but what if you are right? What if it fails?
What if we decide to just play the losing game? Well, it seems like that would result in genocide, that’s not good. But hey, at least there is a chance that we get a tossup not getting trump. I don’t think my Palestinian friend would be a fan of that choice though.
A better future isn’t guaranteed, but you will never get a better future by playing the losing game.