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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (21 children)

Technically this could all be true even if the universe were created 4000 years ago. As somebody says in Robert Heinlein's novel Job: A Comedy of Justice, "Yes, the universe is billions of years old, but it was created 4000 years ago. It was created old." (approximate quote from memory)

I absolutely agree with science, but strictly speaking we can't know for sure the universe isn't the creation of some superbeing operating outside of it - or it could even be a simulation.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago (6 children)

We can't prove that the world we live in wasn't created last Thursday, with our memories, the growth rings in trees, and so on created by a (near) omnipotent trickster to deceive us. But science and rationality give us tools for determining what's worth taking seriously, and sorting out the reasonable, but unconfirmed, claims from the unverifiable hogwash.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Pffff. Look at this conspiracy bullshit.

Everyone knows that the universe will actually be created tomorrow. What you are experiencing now is a flashback from tomorrow of what you did yesterday. Prove me wrong.

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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually the universe was created on Jan 1st 1970. That's why computers sometimes have errors with pre-1970 dates, it's the universal simulation glitching due to the high clock rate of computers compared to the universe's. Anyone who claims to have been born before 1970/01/01 is a simulation that's lying to you, and anyone born after is real, hence why now that its more player characters than NPCs things are going off the rails politically and socially!

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[–] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

We can't know anything with 100% certainty. We can always imagine some razzle-dazzle, imagined scenario to counter the rational explanation if we like.

The point of the scientific method and logical reasoning is to pick the explanation with the most evidence.

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[–] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 132 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Pretty sure the point of creationism is that everything was put on the earth when it was created, including fossils etc. You can't argue this with logic. My favorite spin off of this is Last Thursdayism where the earth was created last Thursday (regardless of what day it's now) which basically uses the same argument.

[–] Ddub@lemmy.ca 53 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That does explain why I can never get the hang of Thursdays

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[–] Bobmighty@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Engagement bait.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

All young Earth creationist should be exiled to a remote desert island to die

[–] mineralfellow@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I was a YEC before going to university. I studied geology. After two years, I accepted that evolution happened. After four years, I was an atheist. I went on to get a doctorate, and I have published quite a few papers about rocks that are >2 billion years old.

As a kid, there were literally 0 authority figures in my life that accepted that evolution happened. It was taken as a given that it was ridiculous. My biology teacher skipped the chapter on evolution, saying, “this is controversial.”

Patience, love, and making critical information available gives kids like I was a chance.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Two islands, divide them by sex. If you don't, they will eventually overpopulate and start colonizing places like they've been in the last 1000 years.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

Should we start building a big wooden boat for them?

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah, this is broken because all lead did not have to come from polonium, that's how half-lives work.

It's still 100% bullshit in every way, someone just needs to have chatgpt4 sort out the current mass fraction to explain why, I'm way too lazy to argue against insanity.

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[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 63 points 1 day ago (14 children)

When I was being raised as a young earth creationist, the earth was supposedly 12,000-20,000 years old. Then it was 10,000 years old. Then only 6,000. After I outgrew that nonsense, I joked that in a few decades YECs would say that their god created the earth in 1980, and anyone older than 40 are agents of the devil sent to test your faith.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Of course, the universe was actually created in 1970 and anyone claiming to be older than 54 is an agent of Microsoft sent to test your faith in Unix.

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[–] LilDumpy@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Real question: Is the decay of uranium the only natural way to produce lead? If so TIL.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 116 points 1 day ago (5 children)

you can also lead by example

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Iron is the heaviest element capable of being created inside stars, via fusion. Once iron is fused, the star begins to rapidly collapse.

Elements heavier than iron (28) are the result of supernova explosions, which produce energies high enough to create these heavier atoms. It is further possible, as described in the image, for very heavy elements to decay into lighter more stable elements, those still being heavier than iron.

Lead is 82.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I assume someone saying this is a creationist and can just say god created Earth already with the lead in it. Therefore it is a pointless discussion.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Which raises the question of why he would create a planet with the illusion of age and send you to hell for falling for his own trick.

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