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If I was logged into several instances at once in the client and seeing the composite feed and then could choose instance when replying or posting (with some set default, like from: field in e-mail clients) lemmy.world could ban piracy all it wants and it'd still be in my feed without me having to leave it or change instances.

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[–] reddthat@reddthat.com 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The liftoff app has the ability to show multiple accounts across multiple instances.

Also... Lemmy.world has/will become the default at this point in time. When you eventually get big enough you even up having to cater for the "laws".

Are they defederating from instances that are neutral as well? Or defed'ing from the privacy instances?

[–] gabe@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago

It's deeply unfortunate it's essentially made itself the "default"

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not the first instance that has done something because of legal concerns about content from other instances. Many have already defederated from lemmynsfw.com because of that.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The entire point of federated social media is that you can swap instances if you don't agree with policies. That's the whole point of Lemmy!

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All lemmy needs is to allow us to export/import our sub and block lists to make it easy tbh. Then it'll be purrfect.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

yeah I'd say user management across instances is the biggest flaw in the fediverse right now. Mastadon has made decent progress in that area, but it's still imperfect.

A lot of the benefits of federation are weakened by the fact that it's a pretty huge PITA to change instances

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I want to move the communities I founded off of LW too.

[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why you don't join the popular instance. Eventually the shitbirds ruin it.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, I joined the smallest of the bigger communities and it has worked out pretty well. I'll probably need to leave eventually once it gets too big, but for now it works well.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup, I joined the smallest of the bigger communities

What does that even mean

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

The most mediumest.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

When I joined, there were about three major instances, and the rest were quite a bit smaller (I.e. <50 users). So I picked the smallest of the big instances (I think it had 500 or so users).

Basically, I wanted more than 100 or so users to have a better chance of the admin being active enough to respond to issues, but I didn't want to be with one of the top instances to avoid outages and whatnot.

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[–] faintedheart@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There should be an option to see all posts on our feed from all our instances. Then when commenting choose the instance from which the comment has to be posted.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This needs to be done carefully. At the extreme you're asking every instance for a list of posts from all instances. It could become something like a DOS. Having just a few accounts should be fine though. Or just asking one instance for "all" and others for "local".

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I was logged into several instances at once...without me having to leave it or change instances.

So you're working around having to change instances by changing instances? Am I missing something?

[–] WorldWideLem@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

I think they're suggesting an aggregate feed from some number of concurrently logged in users.

[–] 30021190@lemmy.cloud.aboutcher.co.uk 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jerboa is fairly simple in terms of its the instance that does the majority of heavy lifting.

What you're asking for could be solved in Jerboa with some work, or you could host your own instance and get what you need now without community effort.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only thing I really want from Jerboa is a notification when any of my accounts has a reply/message.

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[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Banning piracy? Like the mere encouragement or?

That instance is fast becoming moderated as just as much of a neoliberal authoritarian shithole as r/politics was 🤦

[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Banning any chance that instance owners face legal actions for piracy.

It's really not tough reasoning. The vast majority of instances will do the same.

[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The irony bring that Reddit itself doesn't ban piracy related stuff as long as you don't outright post links publicly... It's a shitty kind of platform to do that anyway.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I mean they have a legal team. Joe Shmo doesn't.

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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

neoliberal authoritarian shithole

Meanwhile the admin not wanting to deal with the inevitable legal trouble: T_T

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. I wouldn't be surprised if the admin got a few scary letters from several letter agencies.

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[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Banning piracy? Like the mere encouragement or?

Just the mere encouragement & discussion, yes. The banned communities do not allow direct links to pirated content (!piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com has a rule forbidding that).

It's strange to see people saying there was some sort of legit reasoning, the lemmy.world admins did not receive any sort of legal DMCA/NTD request or anything of the sort. They were simply trolled hard by a brand new account from lemm.ee asking to defederate from "piracy" communities and lemmy.world admins took the bait. See the post yourself https://lemmy.world/post/3175920

Incidentally that same user has created troll accounts at other instances & have been getting themselves banned, they were already banned at the dbzer0 instance (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/1956277) so it looks like it was simple retaliation to attempt to trick other instances into defederating/blocking them.

[–] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago

What an asshole! 🤬🤦

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it has to do with ideologies but more like the admins can't afford a fight against the very same people you're talking about.

[–] ribboo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meh. That’s not really how it works though. If pirated content is not actually spread on the platform nothing illegal is happening, and regardless, long before any fight was going to happen there would have been takedown request.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sure, but why risk it when this is essentially a volunteer project?

I'm not saying they're right. I'm just saying I understand their concerns. Others don't care and allow piracy content just fine.

[–] zecg@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They banned piracy from lemmy.ml and dbzer0.com and also shrooms and other subs. They strive to be the aww emporium, it seems.

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[–] Gatopardo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] zecg@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At the moment, I don't know of any client that allows this, that's why I'm floating the idea where Jerboa people can see it.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Either I don't understand what you mean, or you're not aware that other clients can indeed do this, like Liftoff.

[–] zecg@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Thank you, haven't tried Liftoff, will now.

[–] soullioness@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Liftoff app is good and basically does this.

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[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Niche communities should be on niche instances and users should join smaller instances that federate with their interests.

[–] joe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This kind of defeats the purpose of federation, no? The point is, I thought, that it didn't really matter which instance you joined.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 3 points 1 year ago

It doesn't, but it doesn't mean organisation and thus increased discoverability are a bad thing

[–] reddthat@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

It doesn't matter what instance you join if every instance also employs no blocks.

At this point in time it is starting to matter. With the increased instance level blocks and defederation.
In the future it won't matter as you will have mobile/web apps that create multiple accounts on the instances you want that have the communities you want to subscribe too.

If the communities are only created on the big instances, and the big instance decides to defederate from your home instance then you no longer have any way from your home instance to get access. Thus the future features I have alluded to become a real need.

Op made a valid point, if small niche groups form around small instances, you will have less issues and the instance will be for everyone who wants to join that community. Then it would truly be a decentralized platform where each instance is one or two communities. An instance block would not have the blast radius. For example, I don't think anyone who is small has the ability to block Lemmy.world . They are too big and have too many communities. If you were to block them you would need to setup the communities on your own instance. Whether that works or not and whether enough people join around it who knows.

Like you said tho, a community on a small instance had less chance for good visibility and being found. But that is where third parties come into play like browse.feddit.de. without them the early migrations would have struggled and community discovery would also have been an issue too.

Now that I'm thinking about it, if we could integrate the feddit browser into all the lemmy instances so when you search on your local instance it would show all items not just ones your instance knows about... That would help solve part of the discovery issues... Brb I need to chat with the feddit admins :p

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