Political Memes

Trump would be a disaster for the middle east. He wouldn't even be good for Israel. Sure, he'd support Israel now, but Trump loves strongman leaders, and there are plenty of them in the middle east, so he'd love Netanyahu, but he'd probably also cozy up to any other regional strongmen and destabilize things even more.

But, the Biden/Harris admin has been effectively sponsoring the genocide by giving military aid to Israel. It's clear that Israel is the biggest military power in the region, and it has been for decades. It has no need for military aid. The best way to help civilians is to make Israel afraid to piss off its neighbors. Right now it's convinced it could beat them in any war, so it's happy to grind the Palestinians into dust, daring Iran, Egypt, etc. to interfere.

Yes, it's a complex geopolitical issue, and an all-out regional war would put many more civilians in danger, not just the Palestinians. But, giving military aid to Israel while they engage in genocide isn't a good way to prevent a regional war.

Even if you're a single-issue voter who doesn't care about women's reproductive health, doesn't care about the rule of law, doesn't care about free speech, doesn't care about corruption, and is only 100% focused on the fate of Palestinians, even then you should be voting for Harris. Even if you don't like her policies, there's still a slight chance she'd listen to reason once elected. Trump would be an utter disaster.

First and foremost, this isn't a 1000 year war. It's a bit over 100 years at most. The colonization of Palestine started around 100 years ago. Israel was founded in 1948.

Secondly, Kamala isn't working towards achieving shit. Her government is literally still sending weapons to Israel as Israel is shooting at UN peacekeepers, burning people alive, attacking five different countries, and much more worse.

Can someone provide further sources by what she means by an all out war if Israel loses support? Like stop killing civilians in Gaza, that's all we're asking

The multiple typos in Harris's statement point to the author either being lazy or trying to portray her as an idiot

"1000 year old conflict" is already Zionist propaganda.

Oh yes. This will surely win over those far left voters.

This is just pro Israeli propaganda. This specific conflict started in 1948. The whole UN has voted against Isreal. And you're telling me that that region will have all out war if Israeli troops stopped killing children? GTF outta here.

"1000 year conflict"

Year of Israel's creation: 1948

Start of Gaza genocide: 2023

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The majority of people want an end to the Unconditional Military Support of Israel. That is the requirement for the US to abide by US and International Humanitarian Law as well. It's not that complicated. You can't say you want to support civilians on both sides when you provide one side with the weapons used to commit genocide against the other unconditionally.

The argument for people who are anti-genocide to vote Harris, is that Trump will not only be much worse than the current administration, but will not be able to be swayed by public pressure in the same way Harris might be. The harm reduction argument is true for domestic policies, but is meaningless for foreign policy when the current administration is assisting Genocide.

Harris is significantly more likely to be pressured to change course from public pressure than Trump, that is the right argument for getting people who are anti-genocide to vote Harris despite the current administration's policy. Because the fight doesn't end after the election, but the fight will be much more difficult under a Trump administration.

I was banned from r/LateStageCapitalism for politely supporting a post with this reasoning. I pointed out that Trump would make the conflict even worse for innocents, and voting third-party to make a statement against neoliberal Democrat rule (which is bad) is a position that, in this moment, only the least-vulnerable in America can take when there is a risk of outright christo-fascism threatening the least-enfranchised.

Banned. “This is a socialist sub.” Proceeded to see a post from a mod openly mocking anyone who entertained lesser-of-two-evils arguments; they sounded like a sneering teenager. Over there, it’s all theory and no parsing of theory with reality.

"Dude look at how stupid you look in this strawman I made of you!"

This shit is so fucking stupid....

People ask why Kamala is so far right on so many issues compared to the Dem voter base...

And rather than say "yeah, I can't provide a valid reason she keeps going to the right", we keep getting these posts about how it doesn't matter?

Imagine if Kamala's line was just to the right of yours, whatever you care most about, she's just going to agree with trump on.

And when you go around, asking why you aren't important enough to be on Kamala's side of the line, everyone told you to stop being a baby and be happy with what you get, even tho what you want isn't included in her platform

Like, we don't gain votes by supporting a genocide.

We don't gain votes from a border wall and Trump's other border policies Kamala adopted.

Shit. Just being pro-fracking is going to lose us PA, and trump can't win the election without PA.

That one fucking issue that not a single person can explain why she holds. That's all it would take to prevent trump.

But instead of using your time productively to try and get Kamala to change while there's still time...

You want to shit on the people the party left behind?

Like this doesn't even seem like trying to bully them into voting anymore, you're punching down on these people constantly and gleefully....

You're acting exactly like a fucking trump supporter.

TLDR:

The people trying to pull Kamala left are the ones helping Kamala

You're trying to do the same thing Hillary supporters tried to do in 2016....

Do you honestly not remember how that worked out?

Or is this all intentional?

Another post that makes me further double down on voting 3rd party. It is because of this mentality that not enough people vote 3rd party to make a difference. Also, I refuse to reward genocide.

I would also like to add Trump being worse isn't a good argument because this administration has let israel do all it wants and given them every weapon and funding.

When strawman versus just one person isn't anywhere near enough