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In a vacuum, sure. Biden is way older than I'd like to have in the white house. We desperately need younger politicians with fresher ideas.
But like. Let's be serious. It is just as important at this moment in history that Trump not win, and Biden has already shown he can beat Trump. That's the only important thing right now. We can figure out who runs to replace Biden after term two.
This is my understanding as well. No one voted for Biden. He's just the person that was bland and white enough to beat knot head.
Yup. He's simply not an exciting person or candidate. He's not really even all that liberal. Just fine when your target voters are moderately conservative swing voters who fancy themselves principled enough not to vote for an obvious criminal. Democrats will already vote for him because he's the democratic candidate. He's trying to appeal to never-trumpers. And it worked.
Biden is doing a much better job than I thought he would, but also I would really like to see someone 40 years younger in the role.
I don't care how old he is himself, he has brought in a shit ton of younger progressive people in his administration, and that's what matters.
What young progressives are in the Biden Administration? from what I've been reading, Biden has actually brought in a bunch of old neoconservatives like Elliot Abrams of Iran-Contra infamy whom Biden has nominated for a key diplomatic position
I probably shouldn't have limited it to just the administration. Because the first thing I did was Google progressive judges submitted by Biden, then got bored of copying and pasting. You can Google the same way I did,
This is a common sentiment for people to have, but their preference runs into a major problem. There is no magic "young Biden" candidate out there that can unify the party.
If Biden announced tomorrow that he was going to retire rather than run for reelection, there would be an absolute clusterfuck circus of everyone and their mom's roommate's cousin's dog jumping into the dem primary. Sanders — who is even older than Biden — has even implied that he would run in this scenario. Harris would get a lot of institutional support, but nowhere near enough to clear the field. Newsom would jump in. A solid half dozen house representatives with no real chance would jump in. As would some other has-beens or insufficiently qualified people. A few governors would take the chance too. It would take months for the race to whittle down to the core 5-6 people with any real chance, and by that time >$100m would have been pissed down the drain. Any establishment candidate that won would be met with instant distrust from large parts of the progressive left, and any progressive candidate that won would be met with similar levels of distrust from the rest of the party.
The primary would be acrimonious, expensive, and long. Dems would toss aside one of their biggest advantages going into next year — money — as Trump is more likely than not to tie up the republican primary comparatively early.
"We need a younger, popular person to be our nominee" is a trivial thing to wish for. It's an exceedingly non-trivial thing to make happen. Every person pining for such a person is imagining very different democrats as fitting that description.
The time for new is 2028. We picked Biden in 2020 and picking a candidate one year comes with an implicit outcome of picking them in the next election, if they win the first time.
I agree that it'll be a challenge. On the other hand, the dude is just too fucking old. I'll absolutely vote against him in the primary.
We can do better, and we should.
I'll absolutely vote against him in the primary.
Who's running against him in the primary?
I'm just not seeing the problem with having a real battle of a primary and the chance for a decent candidate to emerge on top for the general. I'm really not.
You say money, but I'm sure a lot of people are more likely to donate for someone they like in both the primary and then the general (even if that's different candidates)
You're right about what a clusterfuck it would be, I'm glad you are well aware of the Sad Sorry State of the Democratic Party.
The Easy Solution for that ClusterFuck is to maybe not try to rig the primary against Sanders. But of course they won't do that. They will waste hundreds of millions of dollars to make sure they get another corporate puppet in there who has as much of a chance of winning as Biden.
That again, does not disprove the fact that Biden is deeply unpopular and his election is not a safe bet. Especially if the long predicted economic crisis comes to pass or any other number of things could happen. I would be happier if Biden himself just made more commitments to progressive issues, ending the blockade or cuba or freeing political prisoners could be done with a strike of the pen. But we know he won't do anything like that.
We picked Biden in 2020 and picking a candidate one year comes with an implicit outcome of picking them in the next election, if they win the first time.
This is strange logic honestly, as the DNC said in court in 2017 about having fair and impartial primaries "There's no contractual obligation" for us to elect him again.
That bit about waiting about 2028 is rich, why would the DNC change then? I doubt the threat of fascism would go away, they probably would have made more gains by then. They will say 'not this year, next time' forever. Maybe send that back to the thinktank and see if you can be not so transparent lol
The DNC is going to do this charade of trying to browbeat and guilt trip young and minority voters into getting out the vote like they did in 2016, and I don't think it's gonna work. because that's not how you win elections. You win elections by mobilizing voters, offering them things they want and delivering - the dems want to do everything but give people what they want and then wonder why they lose to a party 75% of the country hates
I’ll take Biden over ANYONE currently running, and I’m not even a huge Biden supporter.
Yeah I mean who is there to replace Biden? Hilary again? No thanks. It seems the Dems don't really have anyone, especially for this election aside from Biden. And no don't say Sanders, we need someone effective who can actually win and get things done. Bernie is yet another dinosaur who should retire and is completely ineffectual.
I'm not suggesting Sanders should run again but your critique of him as ineffectual is complete nonsense.
Let me guess... Only dean Phillips can save us?
no. Phillips has no chance.
He's just saying the quiet part out loud. Biden is the compromise canidate nobody likes but everybody voted for precisely because he's milquetoast and soooo much better than the turnips the pubies put forward
everybody voted for precisely because he’s milquetoast
I voted for him in spite of him being milquetoast.
well, kinda, yeah. My point is he wasn't particularly offensive to anyone (which is exactly why he was chosen as Obama's VP... you don't pick controversial VP's, generally.) which is exactly the reason he became the nominee in 2020, and will be again.
Why in the bloody hell should he?
He's done a fantastic job guiding the country through some extremely trying few years.
So what's Phillip's angle?
Is he another spoiler Democrat like that clown JFK Jr who has right wing/Russian backing to cause problems within the party?
Is he another traitorous Democrat like Manchin who is probably going to jump parties when it suits him?
Or is he just another clueless Democrat that doesn't understand that unity is how we defeat the Red Menace?
I don't like JFK Jr, at all but how is he a "spoiler" if he's running in the primaries? I thought 3rd parties are spoilers.
He's funded and managed by right wing/GOP donors some with ties to Russia.
yes, but that's not what a 'spoiler' is
Julian Castro!