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Flawless 4K special effects have been available for over 100 years, but the government’s been hiding them!

Re-hoaxed :)

I do find it amazing that it was literally easier to send humans to the moon than faking it in 1969

Like, isn't that an astonishing fact?

This is the one thing that kills me with one of my favorite space movies, interstellar... they have that one scene at the school saying the landings were faked to bankrupt the soviets...like how the fuck did that make it into the movie.

It's probably because most of the people that believe these things are impossible can't even chew with their mouths closed.

If we could fake the moon landings, we also could have faked the Soviet Union.

We were in the middle of a cold war with the soviets back in the 1960s. Proving the moon landing was fake would have been the propaganda coup of the century for them. What possible reason would they have to stay quiet about that?

That's always been my number one reason why the moon landing was definitely not faked. The Soviets never caught wind of it between 1969 and 1992? Come on.

Similarly to the conspiracy that inspires this meme, the meme itself also doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

Often. On the other hand...

Although I admit I found them fascinating when I was a little kid.

To orbit the moon, a space craft needs to move at about 1.5 km/s, or 3300 miles per hour.

So any landing starts with you going at 1.5 km/s and needs to end at the moons surface when you reach about 0 meters per second.

If anything goes wrong with your engines while you slow down, you smack into the moon at either near orbital speeds, or at fighter jet speeds. The window for having an engine failure and being slow enough to survive is so narrow that it might as well not exist.

That’s why Apollo used pressure fed, self igniting engines. As long as 2 valves opened, you had an engine. And Apollo landers had a totally separate ascent engine that worked exactly the same way, so if the landing engine failed, they could just drop the landing stage and return to orbit at practically any time during the descent. They even had a whole procedure of what to do if the ascent engine didn’t light when they were supposed to leave. Everything from jump starting the engine like a car with a dead battery, to physically getting access to the valves and manually opening them.

I hate the current plan for Artemis. I hate that in 55 years, we’ve only managed to make shit more complicated. The current plan is for a vehicle with no abort capability to ignite its 3 turbo pumped, liquid methane fueled engines at least 4 times to get from low earth orbit to the moons surface, with days between ignitions.

A capability that has never been shown to work or even exist in any capacity. Turbo pumps are finally machined pieces of engineering that need to behave exactly right, or they turn a rocket into either a bomb, or a giant tube that can’t move. And the current plan for Artemis calls for these finely crafted pieces of machinery to be subjected to the harsh environment of both space where they’ll sit for at least a week, and multiple ignitions, where they’re subjected to ridiculous temperatures and pressures.

Absolutely ridiculous. We never left an astronaut on the moon in the 60s and 70s, but by god are they trying to open the first graveyard on the moon these days.

Most of the time anyway...

What, Star Trek?

As a mod on both the Ten Forward and Star Trek communities, I can tell you that Star Trek TOS is 100% true and accurate.

Especially this part:

At least their build quality was generally good back then. I wouldn't trust them to build a Saturn V today.