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US spends a record $17.9 billion on military aid to Israel since last Oct. 7 (apnews.com)

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look at this. Complete destruction. This isn't even an actual war. Its just extermination.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There is cities in Ukraine that look better despite two years of heavy fighting since Russias invasion.

Fun fact. Israel sold drones to Russia which it used to target Ukraine for their bombers and artillery. And they did that after the russian invasion of Chrimea. Also Israel denied to support sanctions against Russia.

Now Ukraine will probably be sacrificed to Russia so the US and EU can focus on helping Israel murder more Arabs.

Truly a friend to the West.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only reason we didn't arm Ukraine to the death immediately is because Russia has been the years since the Cold War extending its tentacles into the governments of the western world. We should have treated Ukraine like we are treating Israel now. They are actually defending themselves instead of using us to dominate their region.

[+] Saleh@feddit.org -31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"extending its tentacles" nice antisemitic dogwhistle you have there.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I got it from this, can you point to me where the antisemitic imagery is in this picture?

Or did you think of this?

Either way, I'm confused how I can be antisemitic when referring specifically about Russia, who is not semitic in anyway.

[+] Saleh@feddit.org -17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

Jewish Bolshevism, also Judeo–Bolshevism, is an antisemitic and anti-communist conspiracy theory that claims that the Russian Revolution of 1917 was a Jewish plot and that Jews controlled the Soviet Union and international communist movements, often in furtherance of a plan to destroy Western civilization. It was one of the main Nazi beliefs that served as an ideological justification for the German invasion of the Soviet Union and the Holocaust.

Works propagating the canard

The Octopus

The Octopus is a 256-page book self-published in 1940 by Elizabeth Dilling under the pseudonym "Rev. Frank Woodruff Johnson". In it, she describes her theories of Jewish Bolshevism.

And the image of Propaganda you show there has the UDSSR, US, England and China in its arms. The whole tentacle image is heavily intertwined in antisemitic conspiracy bullshit.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Ah, a book I haven't read. While I do not know the contents I can assure you, as well as my post history, that was not my intention. It is a pretty succinct image of what Russia is doing though by installing Russian loyalists in Western governments. Like thats happening, I should not have to refer you to take a look at the current GOP to figure that out.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Check out Mariupol.

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess let’s keep genociding Gazans then?

[+] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works -11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There’s no genocide. The number of dead has barely increased over the last couple of months.

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have no words for people like you who are genocide deniers. And I saw that you’re German too, ironic too given the history of your country.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Systemically oppressing and killing members of a group for over 70 years is pretty much a textbook example of genocide.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's only because they haven't been able to count the dead because they've lost the capability. Doctors coming back to the US from Gaza are positive that dead have increased to around 100,000, although ice also seen 200,000 but no one knows now, due to many deaths under rubble, or due to starvation or disease that aren't able to make it to medical facilities. They don't basically don't have the capacity to count too much more.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you actually read the source in Lancet, you would know that this is an estimate without any evidence.

The estimate is originally from months ago and hasn’t accumulated any evidence since.

The Hamas run health ministry not only counts bodies, but also other people they have some proof that they died. For example if people are known to be buried in rubble, they are already counted. Granted not all bodies under the rubble are counted.

However the predicted high numbers of dead caused by famine and disease have not materialized during the last half year.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

However the predicted high numbers of dead caused by famine and disease have not materialized during the last half year.

Says who? Israel? I don't think you understand exactly what's happening over there. The devastation is everywhere. Millions are displaced. The health ministry is extremely overwhelmed. Not everyone buried in rubble, starved, or sick is being counted. Whole families are being obliterated with no one left to go over and report their missing or dead family members. There will be tons of missing people who will never be confirmed, because of all these factors. Not to mention, Israel is keeping the fog of war extremely high, not only with all the bombs but the targeted killings of doctors, aid workers, and reporters and journalists.

The estimates are in numerous places. There are the ones by the Lancet, but the letter by the 99 doctors and aid workers who were just in Gaza have their own that's higher, too. The point is, it's being corroborated by experts who are actually there, along with being based on past situations like this. I think the doctors actually dealing with this crisis who are on the situation on the ground have a better idea of what's happening than you do.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 month ago

I don’t doubt that the situation is bad. The destruction of infrastructure makes everything more difficult, including health care. Doctors also only see the worst aspects in situations like this.

What makes Gaza a special case, is that refugees aren’t allowed to flee to a safe neighboring country or at least the West Bank. The refugees should be allowed to leave the war zone, like they are in every other war. They would be better off in a place with working infrastructure.

Hamas’ insistence on continuing the war is the reason it came to this. If they cared for their people, they would have surrendered months ago and freed the hostages. If Hamas didn’t use hospitals for military purposes, they wouldn’t be attacked.

[–] solo 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

U.S. Aid to Israel in Four Charts || Council on Foreign Relations || 31 Mai 2024

Israel has been the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid since its founding, receiving about $310 billion (adjusted for inflation) in total economic and military assistance.

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Most of the aid—approximately $3.3 billion a year—is provided as grants under the Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program, funds that Israel must use to purchase U.S. military equipment and services.

So this is also another way for congress to ferry money into arms companies in their districts.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Invading the region and calling it another US state would have been a better deal for the US that blowing money in useless wars they will never win.

[–] Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Spending the money on weapons in the first place, here or Israel, is the grift. Tax dollars should be spent on proper health care or free college

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Not to mention green energy, what with all these hurricanes that will continue to be increasing in intensity and quantity.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It cost about 10 billion to end homelessness in America for a year. You could have had that, but instead America’s leaders want to kill Gaza's children.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Throwing figures like that seems to be disinformation: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/aug/27/facebook-posts/no-consensus-cost-ending-homelessness-us-or-haltin/

Seems like USA spent $51 billion in 2021 to end homelessness: https://my.neighbor.org/what-is-the-cost-of-homelessness/ -- I guess that's nowhere near enough money thrown at the problem.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Just tell every church they have to accept 3 homeless, or lose their tax advantage and there would be no more homeless.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Healthcare, please

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Gross

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

It's just our rent payment.

[–] NastyNative@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Does this include all the donations by religious groups in the US?