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Wake up to the reality, modern Zionism is terrorism.
The IDF is the most brutal terror organization in the world.
Israel is the only country in the world that isn't allowed to bomb its enemies.
If any other country does it, it's to protect themselves. When Israel does it, it's "genocide".
It is allowed to bomb their enemies, and their families and their children, and their schools and hospitals.
They just all categorize them as enemy, which is the problem.
Summing up the situation as "bombing their enemies" only shows your ignorance or bias.
They are running a starvation campaign. They created a million refugees, then they carpet bomb the refugee camps. They destroyed almost all of the hospitals, schools, and places of worship in Gaza. They rape Palestinian prisoners, and when the rapist was going to be prosecuted, the populace protested and made him a social media star. The civilian leadership has called for the starvation and extermination of the entire population on hundreds of occasions. I could go on and on, the list of Israeli war crimes in the past year is horrendously long.
And now they aren't just attacking Gaza, they are invading Lebanon as well, doing the same war crimes.
Israel is the only country in the world that isn't allowed to bomb its enemies.
These with crayons in their school bags?
Why is Hamas never blamed for using human shields?
Israel justifies nearly every attack on civilians that way
Human Shields
Hamas:
Intentionally utilizing the presence of civilians or other protected persons to render certain areas immune from military attack is prohibited under international law. Amnesty International was not able to establish whether or not the fighters’ presence in the camps was intended to shield themselves from military attacks. However, under international humanitarian law, even if one party uses “human shields”, or is otherwise unlawfully endangering civilians, this does not absolve the opposing party from complying with its obligations to distinguish between military objectives and civilians or civilian objects, to refrain from carrying out indiscriminate or disproportionate attacks, and to take all feasible precautions to spare civilians and civilian objects.
Israel:
Additionally, there is extensive independent verification of Israel using Palestinians as Human Shields:
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Including Children (2013 Report)
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Israel “Systematically” Uses Gaza Children as Human Shields, Rights Group Finds 2024
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Breaking The Silence - Testimonies from IDF Veterans
Deliberate Attacks on Civilians
Israel deliberately targets civilian areas. From in general with the Dahiya Doctrine to multiple systems deployed in Gaza to do so:
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The Dahiya Doctrine & Israel’s Use of Disproportionate Force
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‘A mass assassination factory’: Inside Israel’s calculated bombing of Gaza
Israel also targets Israeli Soldiers and Civilians to prevent them being leveraged as hostages, known as the Hannibal Directive. Which was also used on Oct 7th.
There were people wearing clothes declaring support of Hezbollah, which at worst is literal support of terrorists and at best, dimwitted.
It's okay though, you can be as racist as you like towards Jews and it doesn't matter. It's the only form of racism that's acceptable.
I enjoyed Howard Jacobson’s piece in today’s Observer on one specific form of it that’s found a new prevalence
This is a bad article that conflates wanting Israel to kill less children with antisemitism.
Here we were again, the same merciless infanticides inscribed in the imaginations of medieval Christians. Only this time, instead of operating on the midnight streets of Lincoln and Norwich, they target Palestinian schools, the paediatric wards of hospitals, the tiny fragile bodies of children themselves. Even when there are other explanations for the devastation, no one really believes them. Reporters whose reports are proved wrong see no reason to apologise. No amendment of their calumnies. What is there to apologise for? It could have been true.
The difference is that Israel has bombed schools and hospitals, this conflation of the proven actions of Israel with medieval pogroms is frankly vile. Would have been nice if he could've provided an example of the 'reporters proven wrong', because in context he seems to be implying that Israel's targeting of schools and hospitals is the thing that's been proven wrong, which would be weird given that Israel itself will tell you it's targeting schools.
Ask how Israel is able to target innocent children with such deadly accuracy and no one can tell you. Ask why they would want to target innocent children and make themselves despised among the nations of the Earth and no one can tell you that either.
I've yet to see any journalist claim that Israel is deliberately targeting children.
Only compare reporting from Gaza with reporting from Ukraine. Bombs have fallen there, too, but how often is the burial of Ukrainian children the lead story?
Because Russia has killed less children, 2,000 according to UNICEF compared to the 12,000 that have been killed in Gaza despite the Ukraine war starting in 2022. I don't think this is because Russia a more moral actor, but Israel clearly isn't trying to avoid child casualties.