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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

His bullshit response said all we need to know: The answer is this guy is a spineless, lying, piece of shit.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Like I needed another reason with this guy.

It's astounding how one person manages to be so deeply unlikable.

[–] silence7 29 points 1 day ago

You've got at least a billion dollars less than the people he cares about being liked by.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago

I need someone to say publicly "Every time you hear someone say 'clean air and water' in response to a question about climate change, it means they don't understand what climate change is"

[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Just like he wiggled into that sofa’s DMs

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Walz: Trump is “fickle”. Add that to the “weird”column.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

He's like a slug with delusions of humanity.

[–] stabby_cicada 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Climate change isn't real, but if it was, we would need to pump more oil and natural gas in the United States to make our energy sector strong for the oncoming crisis."

"Oh, and don't buy solar panels from China, because they're dirty foreigners."

And Walz, who spent the whole debate staring at the podium scowling like a rotten jack-o'-lantern, was so out of it he couldn't effectively call out Vance's bogus definition of clean energy and bring up the Build Back Better plan and Biden's investments into the US energy economy.

What the fuck.

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Also, let me shoehorn in the Mexicans real quick."

[–] stabby_cicada 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Millions of illegals!"

"Actually, the people you're referring to are legally in the United States with temporary protected status..."

"They're still here illegally because I say so, illegal illegal lalala"

[–] silence7 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have darker skin than Vance, so he sees them as inherently criminal, irrespective of whether they've actually committed a crime.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

So, Vance married a criminal? Maybe she is even an illegal by his definition.