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A top economist has joined the growing list of China's elite to have disappeared from public life after criticizing Xi Jinping, according to The Wall Street Journal. 

Zhu Hengpeng served as deputy director of the Institute of Economics at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) for around a decade.

CASS is a state research think tank that reports directly to China's cabinet. Chen Daoyin, a former associate professor at Shanghai University of Political Science and Law, described it as a "body to formulate party ideology to support the leadership."

According to the Journal, the 55-year-old disappeared shortly after remarking on China's sluggish economy and criticizing Xi's leadership in a private group on WeChat.

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 155 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (47 children)

If you think the Chinese economy is bad now, wait 15 years. No amount of sending economists to the gulag will hide this disaster.

Edit: tankie downvotes are like nectar of the gods to me. Your precious CCP will wither like a plant in the desert.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 68 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I’ve already been banned from Hexbear. Bunch of assclowns over there.

Edit: and now lemmygrad

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's easy mode, since Rule 2 is basically "don't write a fact about China."

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[–] Shard@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Arbitrary bans from overly sensitive mods? Straight to Jail.

Made a comment about tankies in lemmy getting mad over some news about China getting hit with influence ops by the US. Believe it or not, ban.

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[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 31 points 2 months ago

What a stark example of Mao's legacy (look at the dip between ages 60 and 65).

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Who thinks Chinese economy is bad now??

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 89 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Fox@pawb.social 74 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lol he does look like that fucking bear

[–] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 months ago (10 children)

You have been banned from lemmy.ml for violating rule 2

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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Wait but Hexbear said that China is a democracy? Did they lie?!??

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 68 points 2 months ago (80 children)

I had the most hilarious discussion with a Tankie about China a while back. They refused to accept that China is pretty much communist in name only. I pointed out that they had billionaires, privately-owned companies, a stock exchange and private property, meaning you can earn capital in China.

The Tankie actually said something on the lines of, "If you would JUST READ MARX you would know that earning capital is a fundamental cornerstone of communism!"

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Tankies are just communist cosplayers.

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[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 19 points 2 months ago (55 children)

The Tankie actually said something on the lines of, "If you would JUST READ MARX you would know that earning capital is a fundamental cornerstone of communism!"

I'm a communist who doesn't want to call China a communist country, so I don't really agree with the person that you were talking to, but your second paragraph does show you haven't researched communism or its history. The debate of whether societies need to undergo capitalist capital accumulation first to enter communism is about as old as communism, and the history of communism is full of examples of this. It's the ideological reason why the Russian Socialist Democratic Labor Party split into two wings: the Mensheviks and the Bolsheviks, the former believing that the Russian Empire had to undergo capitalism first in other to become communist, and the latter wanting to implement socialism to the primitive almost feudalist Russian empire. Some similar split happened more discreetly inside the Communist Party of China, with Mao implementing socialism directly to the extremely underdeveloped Chinese society, and later Deng Xiaoping opting for the more market-socialism (known now to many as "socialism with Chinese characteristics).

So you may or may not agree whether china is communist, but from your comment it's clear that you're very oblivious to the historical and ideological reasons for the argument as to whether china is or isn't a socialist country and whether they're on the path to it. It's good to discuss things and to have opinions, but please get informed before dismissing other people's opinions on topics they've probably dedicated more time than you to studying.

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (9 children)

I'll have you know that America did some bad stuff so that justifies literally any amount of authoritarianism from China.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I already see tankies making up some of the most delusional excuses youve ever heard.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (31 children)

The most ridiculous I have heard is that when I pointed out that people had to wait for years to get a car, and bread lines were common, I got told that the scarcity in communist states is by design.

SuRe yOu lIvE iN tHe CoUnTrYsIdE, bUt YoU dOn'T nEeD a CaR. JuSt WaLk oR gEt A bUgGy.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah over production of goods is a problem but the ussr was built different. Hungary(where im from) has the second best land for agriculture in all of europe only after ukraine and somehow we still had food rations. Same in ukraine too. They had it even worse.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Ukraine'e famine was likely intentional (or at the very least, it was controlled in a way to only affect that one area that happened to have a burgeoning independence movement).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

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[–] Choco1ateCh1p@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wow, what a useful state-sponsored think tank.

I'm sure everyone else who works there will make sure to be completely honest with their findings going forward, regardless of how it might make the Party look.

[–] squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

Things are afoot in the Hundred Acre Wood.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Idk why he assumed the private chat was actually private and not fully monitored.

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Oh, do they fall out of windows in China too?

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

No they just get sent to Lake Laogai for...reeducation.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

Where do people think the honey used to feed Xinnie Jinping comes from?

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Xi is just a walking ~~talking~~ crying infant with an ego that can barely fit in mainland China.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Free West Taiwan! Hopefully, the CCP built dump will implode.

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