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[–] HumbleFlamingo@beehaw.org 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Youtube is blocking large/public instances of Invidious, not all instances.

Can we please not do the click bait/rage bait thing here?

[–] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 1 points 7 minutes ago

Bro can't look 1 step ahead...

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Enshittification is progressing....

I'd rather download each video manually via yt-dlp (previously youtube-dl) than creating and using a google acoount to watch it.

[–] wwwgem@lemmy.ml 1 points 53 minutes ago

Yt-fzf is still an option if you're interested.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This is saddening.

I know the invidious contributors have been working on this over the last few months. Looks like they finally got there only to have youtube slam the door. That's a real gut punch.

I already switched to running an instance at home instead of my VPS, so this news doesn't change much for me personally but it's a demonstration that youtube is actively seeking to block the project.

As with reddit / lemmy, I doubt a viable alternative will emerge until youtube has become well and truly offensive.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

As with reddit / lemmy, I doubt a viable alternative will emerge until youtube has become well and truly offensive.

Even after it has this is very unlikely because part of the appeal of youtube is getting paid for work and most people either don't have the money to pay for it, choose not to or hate the platforms through which creators ask to get paid through.

Like it or not, either it'll be another tech company who will later do this exact same thing or we need more people willing to pay and less shitty platforms through which they can do so i.e. not VC backed/supported.

Perhaps. I think consumers are more willing to pay producers than they have been in the past. I acknowledge that the time is not yet right, but with time, the less appealing youtube is the more likely alternatives will become.

[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 8 points 13 hours ago

I run invidious at home on my proxmox server. The server is available everywhere with tailscale, so I can use it even when travelling. If Google ever blocks this, nobody at home can watch youtube anymore...

[–] hedge@beehaw.org 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Pherenike@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago
[–] off_brand_@beehaw.org 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

What's the traffic on invidious? Like, while I don't necessarily agree with the ad-block-block, the profit motive makes sense given their ubiquity. But are there really enough users of alternate YouTube frontends that Google is capturing any meaningful profit? Especially when developer hours are expensive and could be used elsewhere on more valuable projects?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 7 hours ago

Honestly, dev hours are probably a pittance compared to the potential revenue of more ads watched and/or additional YT prem subscriptions.

[–] Ignacio@beehaw.org 30 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Another reason to ditch corporate pages and embrace freedom.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Have they added safety features like denying follows yet?

Also, they really need to create apps for all platforms, this would increase their popularity and usability.

[–] Ignacio@beehaw.org 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Have they added safety features like denying follows yet?

https://ideas.joinpeertube.org

Also, they really need to create apps for all platforms, this would increase their popularity and usability.

https://joinpeertube.org/news/peertube-future-2024

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 10 hours ago

So no, and it doesn't even appear to be on that list.

Cool, seems like eventually they will.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you know of an instance that is able to cover all their expenses with ads?

I want a peer tube instance with ads because I want to make sure my uploaded data is durable long-term

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Why not just pay them? I feel like fedi is based more on that than ads, a lot of us on fedi hate ads.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Because that doesn't sound sustainable

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

How is it different to other fedi projects/instances surviving off of donations?

Most will likely block the adverts anyway, so I fail to see how it'll make money that way.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Sadly the amount and variance of videos on peertube pales in comparison to youtube. I need my Sherlock Holmes audio books 😩

I really wish more youtube producers would cross post to other platforms.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 28 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Not only invidious I guess, they want the user to login when too many videos has been watched on an IP address. So also web browsers on a VPN for example

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

So university students can't watch YouTube anymore? Huh

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 5 points 11 hours ago

Not without login, probably

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 2 points 12 hours ago

Brave Browser blocks YT ads seamlessly.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 7 points 17 hours ago

Some piped instances are still working, thankfully.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 10 points 21 hours ago

I was wondering yesterday why no instance was working, because I always share at least one Invidious link together when sharing YouTube links.

BTW it's not fully blocked, if you can install Invidious locally and use it. But that's not a route I want to go.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 9 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

What does "fully" mean? I'm watching Dan fucking Rath going on a hilarious rant rn on jing.

[–] captainkangaroo@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

According to one of the maintainers

YouTube/Google has patched the latest workaround that we had in order to restore the video playback functionality.

Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won't work anymore.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 11 points 22 hours ago

Some instances will continue for a bit, but it's probably a matter of time, or until invidious figures out another method