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Police have shot and killed a polar bear that came ashore in northwestern Iceland, the first sighting of a polar bear there since 2016. It might have hitched a ride from Greenland on a floating iceberg.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 66 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

Here in the states, we shot a gorilla once.

It, uh, . . . It didn’t go very well for a long time after that.

Personally I’d recommend some other approach. But that’s just me.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think there's a slight difference in a captive gorilla and wild polar bear.

I mean (unrelated but still) I think a polar bear could 1v1 a gorilla. Meaning I think a polar bear is more dangerous. Especially a hungry one, that's able to just walk into a population center.

I too wish they could've saved the bear, but I don't think people are gonna complain about this as much as with Harambe (RIP)

Like even if anaesthesia was an option, they'd still have had to give it a ride back, or build it a home. And building zoos just isn't too popular nowadays imo.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I think a polar bear could 1v1 a gorilla. Meaning I think a polar bear is more dangerous.

An inuit friend once told me a polar bear could hunt, stalk, kill and eat you in about 8 minutes. I'm told the conversion from Minutes to Treadwells says it's longer, but I didn't check whether he was putting me on.

a hungry one, that’s able to just walk into a population center

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/13/churchill-canada-polar-bear-capital

It takes a lot of training and a little acceptance. Note, in the article above, the term 'medical bills', which in Canada doesn't mean "cash for care" so much as "rent and food during recovery", which aren't covered by insurance.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

What does? Living in a polar bear habitat? Did you actually read the article yourself, or did you — I presume — just Google something you thought supported your view?

“If you were to build a town today, you would never put it here,”

Because it's s place where polar bears naturally live, see? Unlike in Iceland. They're not unheard of in Iceland, but it's not their habitat.

Did you note them size of those buses they do these bear tours in?

Did you note that these people don't live alongside bears as much as in a place where there are often bears. These people don't take risks either.

“When I was growing up, it was common for conservation officers to shoot 25 bears a season,” explains the mayor, Mike Spence, who is of Cree and Scottish descent.

Culvert traps, baited with seal scent, line the perimeter of the community; bears that are caught in them are taken to a holding facility, popularly known as the polar bear jail, where they are held for up to 30 days (without food, to enhance the deterrence factor of the experience), before being drugged and helicoptered to a spot safely away from town – or, if late enough in the season, on to the sea ice.

This is a single community, in a place where it's actually feasible to anaesthetise a bear, then keep then without food in a place meant to keep bears, then fly them to a place where the bears naturally live. And it happens so often that it's something that actually warrants constant attention, again unlike in Iceland.

Youre proposing the entire country starts putting down polar bear baits and traps, and then when they work once in a decade when a bear floats down on accident, they'll fly a bear from Iceland to the Arctic?

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[–] trk@aussie.zone 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The irony of an American lecturing another country on finding an alternative to shooting.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

You don’t want to hear from the best?

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[–] Subtracty@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

humans do not deserve animals

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I mean in this case people don't deserve to be killed by animals, even if they're cute animals

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world -2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago
[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago

This is going to be increasing in the coming years. The ice is melting, and they will be forced onto land to look for food.

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