Political Memes

They need the house and the senate for a start. Trump and Kamala are neck and neck and the stars are aligned for a GOP win. We are pushing uphill and everyone's sitting on their laurels hoping it sorts itself out.

"punitive" as in punishing? That sounds like the US treasury will be receiving 100.000.000 then, since an individual shouldn't be the recipient of any "you fucked up, now pay the fine" in any scenario.

Fines explicitly not being caused damages, solely fines.

As someone who works in the saftey field. It's nightmarish. A court telling a refinery they don't have to do maintenence? Like that would neveeerrr happen.

Can you explain like I'm five that?

Why fucking doubt it??????? They are trying to install an authoritarian. It's obvious by now!

Oh, good. I'm sure that we'll never have another corrupt president, so there's absolutely no need to worry!

I don't care how the meme ages. If people get to see the consequences they're the ones who should have gave a shit.

Right, but this is how we slip into authoritarianism. Lose on all fronts over and over and even if we walk away from a battle they've gained ground.

That's going to require a majority in both houses at the least.

That's a giant hope. Harris/Biden know they don't have the means to undo this. It's going to come down to the people giving them the means. Where we are now, when everyone can be so easily polarized by the range of 100,000 different things they are upset about won't allow it.

We have to go back to basics here.

Starting with We the people. No we don't have to reinvent it but to start evaluating it, as a nation, we will make those who hide behind it terrified enough to make changes.

It's a scary proposition. To allow this elclectorate shape our future. At the end of the day they will one way or another. I might be in the last generation that can ride the status quo into the sunset. I dont want that for those that come after. I say give the wheel early. Let them steer us to the future they want.

Spoiler: they won't

The ruling is vague enough that any specific cases can be decided based on the court's political preferences.

No, he can't. It would turn out that isn't an official act, because reasons.

The entire point is that Biden won't, though. It's just more of the rules for thee, not for me shit that fascists love.

So, kinda. The ruling did have more nuance than a lot of people take from it, but it's still not a good ruling by any means.

The president has absolute personal immunity for core constitutional acts, and the presumption of immunity for official acts.

That means that you can't sue Biden for vetoing a bill, or other things defined in the constitution. That doesn't mean you can't sue the office of the president, but that you can't sue the individual.
The next part is that the courts need to assume that there's immunity for anything done "as the president" unless the prosecution can argue that not having immunity couldn't possibly infringe on a power of the president, and you can't use the presidents motivation to make that case.

So the president talks to the justice department about what they can do to sway the election for him: you can only talk about the impact of holding the president liable for talking to the justice department about elections.

You can't talk about the president assassinating a political rival because that introduces their motive. "Would the office of the president be hindered by holding them personally liable for using the constitutional power to command the military to target a threat to the country".

Trumps family could sue, but Biden wouldn't be liable, only the executive branch.

It's like people trying to down play Jan 6th. I said it was coming. You said it was coming. We all said it was coming. "Oh, but that's not really a threat. A threat is when people are losing their lives to an authoritarian government." It's coming.

"Look at the economy! What we can surmise is that concentration camps are good for my pocket book!"

It doesn't matter. You act as though that will temper the ruling but really it is an escape hatch if a Democrat trys to use it. Kings aren't kings just because the people go along with it. Nobility build the infrastructure then fight over who gets the hot seat.