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There’s no such thing as Judeo-Christian vision for the founding of America.

People need to take back their lives from fascists and their false narratives.

I am specifically bringing up Islam because of loony loomers Islamophobia.

The Founders of this nation explicitly included Islam in their vision of the future of the republic. Freedom of religion, as they conceived it, encompassed it. Adherents of the faith were, with some exceptions, regarded as men and women who would make law-abiding, productive citizens. Far from fearing Islam, the Founders would have incorporated it into the fabric of American life.

Ideally, America should be a secular nation with freedom to practice any faith in personal life.

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Yes, people forget that not every founding father was Christian. Ben Franklin was a deist, as per his autobiography, for example.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Founders were day drunk slave owners, rapists, and murderers. Fuck em

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Don't forget they were traitors (seditionaries?) to the existing establishment too... They just happened to win, and history is written by the victors.

[–] comador@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's quite easy to look in hindsight and chastise those in the past for what is perceived as horrible today. But here's a fun fact, you no proof nor shall you ever, that you would have been any better back then.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

Okay so maybe it's unfair for me to make fun of them for not bathing because they thought it would "let the bad airs in" and make them sick, but for that exact reason maybe we shouldn't admire them or look to them for guidance.

It doesn't matter what the Founders thought. They're all dead. This country is ours now, not theirs.

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