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[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 141 points 6 days ago (4 children)

but getting blind drunk in the street every night for them is fine. Ridiculous.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Like smoking, alcohol is a huge industry in Japan. It's "normal" for Japanese companies to addict their employees to their products and because the companies ARE the government, they enact incredibly protectionist laws like this to prevent external competition.

Their economy depends on it. It's super gross. Like America and guns, or Sweden and flatpak furniture (the last one is a half joke)

If Japan starts being a cannabis producer, they'll 180 so fast you'll get vertigo.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I bet they'd produce some bomb ass bud though. It would also look pretty as fuck as each nug is meticulously sculpted into a tiny little bonsai.

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[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I was shocked at how often you just see people laying passed out on the sidewalk or sleeping on a bench. Japan is an insanely different place after the bars start closing. Was genuinely uneasy with how many people everywhere just had zero control of themselves.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There's a reason why countries with proper transit infrastructure view alcoholism as a novelty.

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[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Honestly, i think the reason is that just the right amount of alcohol dependency is amazing for capitalism. Dont get me wrong, I'm not judging anyone. I understand and I enjoy a drink myself. I just think we need to be honest with ourselves about it.

It keeps you consuming and it makes you forget all the bullshit you had to put up with all day. It dulls your your problem solving, your creativity and (most importantly) your empathy, so supervisors, middle managers, department managers and execs are less disinclined not to beat down on those below them.

I'm not saying its some grand conspiracy. I'm saying, those in power have known exactly the right drugs to administer to the masses in order to placate them. The Romans knew to give wine and not cannabis. The British army knew to give rum & brandy but not weed.

In fact, all of them were legal. Then, capitalism really took off and, totally unrelated in sure, every drug other than alcohol suddenly became illegal.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I work at a company that has big offices in Japan and the US (as well as many other places) and it’s pretty interesting to see the contrasts in living standards and expectations up close.

On the one hand, when coworkers visit from Japan they are disgusted by how dirty, unsafe, and uncourteous the US is by comparison. They complain endlessly about the low quality standards of the food. I picture myself having to pick worms and hair out of everything and that’s what things seem like from their perspective.

But then some of them move to the US because they can’t handle the stuffy, oppressive attitude in Japan. Everything is about what you can’t do or aren’t supposed to do. One guy said he was so relieved to go to the US where people know how to say “we can find a way to do that.”

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

From your description alone, knowing only the US and not Japan, it sounds like Europe is the middle ground. Not as free, but less socially oppressive. I mean, in Japan it's mean to walk while you eat.... how deep is the interference running?

Edit: Am from Europe, sorry should have added this.

[–] ChuckEffingNorris@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Europe's pretty free mate. Especially when you get cancer. You get to keep your house!

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[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

There are two kinds of freedom, negative and positive liberty. US has a lot of negative liberties, they dictate little in what you can or cannot do, but is lacking in positive liberty, they don't support you very well to do what you want to do.

While Europe might have less negative liberty, their generally better social welfare system grants people more positive freedom.

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[–] Skates@feddit.nl 116 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Part of the world: takes a step forward

Japan: not on my fucking watch

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago
[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wasn’t it already illegal. My wife’s cousin served two years for an amount that is so small police wouldn’t even bother to confiscate it in europe.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, it's news to me that it wasn't technically illegal. They still believe in the reefer madness shit and act like it.

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

While the possession and cultivation of marijuana are already banned in Japan, the country will prohibit its use as well, setting a prison sentence of up to seven years for violation.

Ok, so that clears that up.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

This is so fucking backwards it's not even funny

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 61 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The pant is illegal because it's cheap to grow yourself, but if you let some drug companies make money off of processing it, then it's perfectly fine to use...

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 6 days ago (4 children)

"A plant known for opening the mind and making you question things? That's illegal."

[–] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Come on, it's not LSD. It just makes you sleepy and snacky.

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[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 31 points 6 days ago

R2 we're supposed to be going up not down!

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

1a. It's a relatively small incentive to get people to emigrate, particularly the young.

2b. wp:Cannabis in China

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In 1985, the People's Republic of China joined the Convention on Psychotropic Substances and identified marijuana as a dangerous narcotic drug, and illegal to possess or use it. The penalty for marijuana possession in China is disputed from various sources, but according to the Law on Public Security Administration Punishments, marijuana smokers shall be detained for 10 to 15 days and fined a maximum of 2,000 yuan.[16][17] However, the cultivation of cannabis for industrial purposes (hemp) has never been prohibited in China.[1]

On another hand, cannabis seeds have been continuously listed in the Chinese Pharmacopeia[18] and hemp has never been prohibited in the history of the country.[19]

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