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[–] Entropy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 96 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

$700, disc drive sold separately for $80. Wtf is Sony smoking. Even the vertical stand is an extra $30. It's a good day to be a PC gamer.

[–] sgibson5150 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Blu Ray player is literally the only reason I use my PS5.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I bought it because partner said we need a disk player. It is a media center that can play video games lol

It is a great media center IMHO my only complaint it won't play flac music when streaming ... Fuck u Sony 🤡

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is why I just bought a HTPC. And I run Linux on it. I can also play games and use it as media center/youtube/etc. No Playstation needed.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i tried this using PC as media center but my teevee remote did not work with it like it does with PS.

what are you using to control the HTPC? mouse and keyboard?

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I use a very portable touchpad + keyboard combo device via Bluetooth, a very compact version. Great question btw. See attachment image. That is the I used in the past.

You also have other products like the Logitech K400 Plus Touchpad Keyboard. Or even a steam controller if you want to lol. It's up to you at the end.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

However, I hate track pads. So I recently moved to a trackball! Much better. I advice to use a trackball as well (not for gaming).

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This one seems better.. You get the point.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 week ago

Ow.. but you DO want to have the keyboard with trackball + scroll wheel hhaha

[–] HackerJoe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or from your phone with KDE connect.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 week ago

That is also possible, but I like to keep my wireless keyboard always near me around the couch. So I don't need my phone. And connect via wifi or Bluetooth blabla.. Also typing on one of the above full-sized keyboards are sooo much better than a touch screen.

It is a great media center IMHO

Other than the damned BluRay/DVD controls. Even IF you have the dedicated remote there is still a ton of basic functionality it is lacking.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Fuck Sony for so many large and small things.

I remember being able to stream my media library from my pc to my Xbox 360 in 2007. Still can't do shit like that on Playstation in 2024. They couldn't even be bothered to give us themes for 2 gen's or folders for a long time.

Those are just random gripes. There's endless others. Sony is run by morons.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago
[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Yea I agree, also the stick drift issues and raising the prices of controllers. I wanted a ps5 for when gta6 came out, but with these prices, sticking with PC and waiting for the pc release.

[–] HackerJoe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

A $379 PELADN HA-4 mini PC has 16GB DDR5 RAM, 512GB NVMe SSD a Ryzen 7 7840HS that easily beats a PS5 (it ties even a i9 11900K desktop in CPU benchmarks).

The APU on that thing runs most games on medium settings (like a PS5) at 60fps and the latest games as well as a non pro PS5. It's a lot faster than a steam deck.

Who on earth needs a console for twice the price that performs worse or slightly better? If you are a tinkerer you can even upgrade that thing with an eGPU.

Radeon 780M with fast DDR5 and 8 core unlocked 5.1GHz CPU only has problems maintaining 30fps in Black Myth Wukong.
It runs circles around the non Pro PS5 in everything else. I wonder how the chinese did get it that cheap. I got one and almost can't believe the value of that thing... The metal box is decent and temps are great. All that copper makes that thing quite heavy though.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

800€ in Europe, that's a hard NO. Plus devs will still target the PS5 for optimising their games. This release was completely unnecessary.

The only reason why it exists is perhaps to try to normalise the higher prices for the PS 6.

[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

That’s what I thought too. They test the waters for a much higher price point. I’m not buying it, if they price the PS6 above 500€ with a disc drive I say goodbye to console gaming.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
  • 120€ if you want the disc drive. That’s 920€ total. A new PS5 Slim with disc drive is less than 500€ and I’ve seen used PS5 Phat with disc drive on ebay for less than 350€.

Almost double the price for a bit nicer raytracing, 2TB and higher framerates in the very few games that don’t support at least 60fps is a very hefty asking price.

For 900€ you can get a pretty good gaming PC. If you buy some parts used, you can even get a really good rig for that price. You might just need to wait a few years until the latest sony exclusives make it to PC eventually.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 40 points 1 week ago

That's an insane price for a console, especially one without a disc drive.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I never thought the PS5 was underpowered. This is kind of a product without a need.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The point in their presentation was having graphics modes be an immovable 60FPS instead of 30FPS. Presumably, every game with a performance mode (that was previously 60FPS) will now run at 120FPS. That's effectively just doubling everything. It's certainly not a bad product, but it isn't for everyone.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

I think lots of games would hit a cpu bottleneck before they reach 120 fps

[–] HowSwayy@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] radix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Sony bought all the "Xbox is dead" talk (true or false doesn't matter, Sony believes it), and has started the high-end gaming console monopoly pricing.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why not go PC at this point. Modern consoles are locked pre-built PCs and paying $700 for a locked system is crazy.

Steamdeck + Dock and you can game on your TV AND on your travels.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Because a PC at a $700 price point will not perform the way the PS5 pro will, or be guaranteed that level of performance on its games for nearly as long. You can always get a better PC for more money but even at $700 the value to performance ratio is there for consoles.

[–] Trollception@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Honestly price isn't an issue and the reason to go PS5 over PC is the ease of use. I can't stand having to get up to use my mouse to click start game, or games that never implemented proper console support on PC for whatever reason. It's just so much easier to have working HDR, Dolby Atmos, etc on a PS5 than it is with Steam big picture on a PC. I've tried it many times and there's always some frustration with the PC on a home theater setup.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I knew it was going to be the PS3 launch pricing all over again lol

[–] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What, you don't want to get a second job just to afford a gaming console? 😂

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The funniest part is my PS5 is collecting dust as it is. Played DeS remake, Ghost of Tsushima, and a Full Metal Panic PS4 game and haven't touched it since.

Oh, I played Silent Hill The Short Message, but that was so cringe I wish I hadn't played it at all. Soundtrack and monster design was good at least, but boy was the writing bad.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

My PS4 last gen collected dust majority of the year and that had a way stronger library of actual exclusives games released for the system that weren't remasters. So PS5 and it's current library of exclusives ignoring that they get released to the PC has been sad. Not been an impressive generation.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Not even close. The PS3 launch price (For the base model mind you, not even a pro model) adjusted for inflation would be over $900 today.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 1 week ago

That is a ridiculous price for a games console.

And PC gamers can stop looking smug because GPU prices make that unreasonable as well.

We need to rethink raytracing, because chasing it has just made everything unaffordable.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

I am definitely not saying boo urns.

[–] Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seeing all the clips of Astro Bot was making me really want a PS5, despite the big price hike we got just last week where I am, then I saw this price and my desire for any PS5 curled up and died again.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's still the regular PS5 though

[–] Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which literally just had a surprise price hike last week where I am that makes it cost more than my rent. The fourth price hike.

The greedy price hikes were why I had decided not to get a PS5 in the first place, and this price took me right back to that.

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