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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 69 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Getting the bad news out ahead of the PS5 Pro announcement tomorrow it seems

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And this without a disc drive. Unbelievable. It's > $1000 (incl. tax) in Germany with a disc drive (If this is even compatible).

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

That’s definitely dope PC money hahaha

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 3 months ago

But the non-pro version with a disk drive is half that price. The thing is they haven't even been that many games for the PlayStation 5 anyway so I can't imagine it's going to be a lot that's going to take advantage of the pro.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sony sees they finally have no real competitors in the console market so they reverted back to their most anti-consumer form and mindset

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[–] Ok_imagination@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They're already more than I want to spend...

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

There’s better controllers for half that price

But got damn are the triggers and haptics ever fucking dope (even if they only work with a couple awesome PC games)

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[–] GuerillaGorillas@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Really wish Sony would just allow DS4s to be used for PS5 games.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My favorite part about hacking systems is when someone makes other controllers compatible.

In using my Xbox controller on my hacked Wii U.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Bloopair FTW

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I just bought a PS4 to hack ...it's on 11.52. Pawn shop I ordered it from said they upgraded it just to make sure I could play games on it. How thoughtful of them :(

[–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That blows. I never had a ps4, so I don't know the whole deal about modding/rooting it. It is crazy that some of these devices have "fuses" that can brick your device if tampered with. It is my device dammit.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

"fuck you give me money"

[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How is the bootleg ps5 controller market? I don't have a ps5 myself but it seems like the obvious answer is to just buy the highest quality off-brand at the better price if you don't want to pay more.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That haptic feedback on the PS5 controller is a rare feature that actually adds something to a controller. If there are third-party options with the haptics, I'd love to know about them, because they kind of spoil you once you get used to them.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't have a PS5 but bought a controller. The first time I was playing a game that supported that feature, I thought my shoulder buttons had broken somehow. I suddenly had to press very hard after pressing the button halfway, and it was clicking. It clicked a bit later that it was a feature when it wasn't happening all the time, just when doing a certain thing in the game.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago

The touch pads on the steam deck are freaky like this. I thought my left one was broken until I used it in a game compared to the os menu.

Also, motion controls are wicked awesome in shooting games.

[–] elgordino@fedia.io 11 points 3 months ago

Yeah the PS5 controller is about the only innovative part of this console generation. The adaptive triggers and haptics are just great. I use one on the PC and for the games that support the extra features they really do add an extra dimension.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Funny because I noticed the haptic feedback for the first time recently after owning my PS5 for over a year and was instantly looking for ways to disable it. I don't trust an unnecessary vibrating motor not to fuck up the parts of the controller I actually care about keeping functional and the Dualsense battery life is abysmal enough as it is

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's designed from the ground up for the haptics though, it ain't going to break it.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

I mean the counter arguement to that is the joy cons joysticks break all the time by just using them.

[–] CrackaAssCracka@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I just got a 8BitDo pro 2 because every PlayStation controller for the last 4yrs has broken in less than 6 months and it's great. Feels good, connects over Bluetooth, and has Hall effect joysticks that aren't prone to drift, which was the Sony controller main issue. All for $50. I think I'm done with Sony controllers.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How is its compatibility with the PS4/5? Might snag one but am worried that it would be subpar compared to an original controller - for example because of a missing touch pad

[–] CrackaAssCracka@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I'm not sure, only ever used it with my PC. As for the touchpad, haven't noticed not having it but I mostly play COD and older aRPGs.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Much as I’ve come to hate Xbox, this could be the beginning of signs of monopoly - they don’t have so much competition anymore, so they can do what they want. Certainly doesn’t help that unofficial controllers have never been good.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The thing is that's 100% on Microsoft. Sony didn't really do anything, Microsoft just kind of flounded around like a fish out of water.

They seemed utterly incapable of realizing that halo is their main franchise lead and should actually be good

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

*sad halo fan noises.

[–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They are not good at least partialy beacuse of sony which apparently actively sabotaged them. At least dualshock 4 . It may be better with dualsense alghtough i doubt it .

Also another cavieat is that they unfortunetly are quite affordable for what they offer. Even on pc the recommendation is usualy to buy console controler ( alghtough not nessearily current gen one ). They truly pack quite a bit of technology in them.

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[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Lol damn. Glad I'm a patient gamer.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

My newer PS5 controller suddenly started refusing to charge when plugged into a USB - the PS5 gave a warning that the charge was too high and it made my PC's USB slots stop working for a bit after plugging it in. Glad they made that alternate way of charging at the bottom, as I got a charge stand and it worked.

[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I guess my plan to hold out for the Pro to see if the regular console drops in price isn't going to work.

[–] Wanderer@r.nf 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably because its the most selling hardware they produce.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago (5 children)

They keep getting stick drift at insane rates (anecdotal evidence), which sony ensures is a great pain to get fixed, assuming you're in warranty.
Ive just replaced one stick in my friends ds5 with the hall effect type, which should outlast the rest of the controller and cost £1.50 (which I'm sure would be less wholesale).

A friend just did the same thing. My two PS5 controllers I've had since the beginning are still fine, luckily. The price tag for the DualSense Edge controllers, which apparently have the hall effect sensors built-in, is absolutely ridiculous. I saw them on Amazon for just under €230. Almost half as much as I paid for the damn console. I don't know what the guys at Sony smoked, but it was too much.

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

ok sony is getting desperate

[–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Long tangent, but I got the Edge or whatever stupid expensive version they have for the extra triggers/levers underneath. I have really small/short palms and don't have the reach to push all the buttons properly. I wouldn't be able to play Elden Ring at all without them. I roll and use potions with the levers instead. Even then, it is still painful after a while and some of the contortions I have to do at times can be annoying.

I have the issue of barely having enough "wrap" with my palm and pinky to grip around the hand things that are angled down a little too much. I absolutely despise that the dpad is one of those rocker pieces underneath instead of individual buttons. I will accidentally do a direction I didn't intend because I rocked the down button too far to the right. It is because the controller still isn't straight when I hold it. lt is partially rotated in my hand so I can get a little more reach upwards and it makes the dpad usable. Having to compensate the direction of joysticks is super fun. I basically have to death grip the controller with my right pinky and tightly squeezed palm to keep it stable.

When that accessible controller came out for the Xbox I was super bummed it wasn't for all platforms yet. Doesn't help I would need to have 2 kits to be able to have separate sides like joycons. Joycons have been my favorite controller of all time as I can comfortably hold them. I tried making a proof of concept sort of gel/shredded memory foam cover, which did help, but it didn't solve the severe pain in my palm, especially the area under my pinky that I use to death grip the controller. After seeing the glove Martina made after she cut off her pinky, I want to try and make a glove next to take the pressure off, improve grip, and sort of brace/support the part of my hand that I keep hurting.

It sucks that accessories keep getting more expensive. I haven't had any issues my my edge, but you bet I would be utterly infuriated if it didn't last when it is almost half the price of the console itself. I have some mechanical keyboards and those things can really get up there in price too. Ergonomic mice are not exactly cheap either. I hate having to use a trackball but so far the only comfortable one is that Logitech one and I have to use the extra angled base it comes with. I game with it.

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I have an XBox 360 controller lying around that still works great. I have a couple DS4s that still work great even though the rubber started coming off the analog sticks. The one Dualsense I bought crapped out after a single year of moderate use.

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