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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 381 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Do NOT call prageru a "university".

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 137 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Prager is to "University" as North Korean is to "Democratic People's Republic"

[–] DarraignTheSane@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't understand PragerU... they put out all of this fascist propaganda, but they still have this video up on their YouTube channel that spells out in no uncertain terms that the cause of the civil war was slavery and the south's want to defend a "morally repugnant institution":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcy7qV-BGF4

Is this just the one thing they keep out there to point at and say that they're "fair and balanced"?

[–] gramathy@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That’s the video they point at when they say the Democratic Party was the party of slavery.

They’re just hypocrites.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Honestly Youtube sucks. I get flagged for "supporting criminal gang activity" because I had a video about Randy Stair that didn't even paint him in a positive light, most youtubers have to say "unalive" because mentioning death gets them demonetized yet PragerU can just straight up say we need to re-enslave black people and the response is "aww shucks"

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fucking knew it... Read the headline and came to the comments thinking "it's definitely that shithole PragerU isn't it..."

Conservatives LOVE projection and they use their victim complex as ammunition. "Libz own the colleges and indoctrinate our youth so it's totally fine now to have our own propaganda university teaching real history!"

I hate PragerU so much...

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[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

the title is from he article— I didn’t pick it! (Rule 1)

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Beat me to it lol. Recognized the art style immediately.

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[–] style99@kbin.social 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservatives won't be happy until they've depicted Moses as a villain who deprived the pharaoh of his hard-earned Jewish slaves.

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[–] Kara@kbin.social 72 points 1 year ago (6 children)

These videos are approved to be shown to children in Florida.

I am honestly scared for the next generation of children who believe that slavery wasn't that bad, and whatever other bullshit Prageru preaches

[–] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The divide between those who eat this bullshit and those who were responsibly raised will be fucking wild. Like think about that one dude in your life that hadn't heard about 'X', a thing that's common knowledge, and how baffling that was but now it's nonstop bafflement with a certain percentage of population.

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It’ll be like the “States’ Rights” people, but infinitely worse. Being raised in the south, you’re taught that the civil war was over states’ rights, not slavery. That slavery was just the one that historians tended to latch onto, because it’s the most inflammatory topic and makes the south look bad.

And if you’re a good student and don’t bother to question that, you’ll enter the adult world believing that the south wasn’t fighting for slavery.

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[–] ech@lemm.ee 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

PragerU isn't a university. They just use the word to trick the unwary into thinking they might have a shred of legitimacy.

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I watched some clips of a couple of these videos. I said "Ok, I'm sure it's conservative, but it can't be that bad, can it?" Surely, the Democrats are using at least some hyperbole in describing these videos, right? Right?

Nope. If anything, they've understated it. These videos are awful. The ones on climate change are particularly brutal, outright saying that because China and India are pollution leaders too, that makes it perfectly OK.

Subjecting Florida's children to 13 years of this drivel is going to turn out a generation of young adults that are going to make Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene look like Mitt Romney by comparison.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I went in with the same expectation, but holy-fucking-shit that is some WILDLY racist and delusional propaganda bullshit.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Yup. While you and I may be preaching to the choir, I don't think a lot of people truly see how bad these videos are.

It's not even just the disinformation, though that's terrible enough. The blatant racism is off the charts. If you thought the "blacks benefitted from slavery" thing was bad, that's just the tip of the iceberg. They weren't just saying that. Their main talking points in the few short minutes I saw were:

  • Black people benefitted from slavery as it was better than the tribal warfare back home that got them captured in the first place.
  • Every major civilization was built on the backs of slaves
  • In some places, white people were used as slaves.
  • Somebody had to do it, and they looked good for it.
  • Even if it was bad, it was how 'Murica was built and the ends justify the means.
  • Nobody alive today was born a slave so hey, it's all good now.

And I only watched a clip that I saw on one of either the CNN or MSNBC videos on the subject. I can't imagine what sitting through an entire video would be like.

I truly feel sorry for Florida's students who are going to have to learn this bullshit only to go out into the real world, find out that a Florida education is now worthless and that the real world isn't Florida.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Disgusting. They won't be happy until slavery is brought back.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

And the thing of it is, the white conservative racists want slavery back because they think it'll apply to black people. But little do they realize that big capital wants slavery back, too, and big capital will be all to happy put everyone into slavery, including white conservatives.

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[–] ForgetReddit@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is back via convicts and our prison system

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That implies it ever left. The 13th amendment "outlawed" except as punishment for crime. Guess how many new laws and crimes were invented after that amendment was created.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Correct: It never really left.

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[–] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Does anyone know why they are allowed to call themselves a university when they clearly are just a rightwing propaganda machine? They fooled me for a while thinking that it was a ultra-christian academic institution or something dumb like that but they are not even a daycare. Shouldnt it be illegal to call themselves a university? Its like if i open a bussines and call it a hospital but i only sell herbal teas and suplements, like holly shit.

[–] TooManyGames@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago

That's why their channel is PragerU, not Prager University. The letter U is not protected.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (5 children)

These assholes reaaally need to be Twilight Zoned into being slaves so they can see how not a big deal it was firsthand.

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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

At some point along the line, Republicans decided that the more someone made liberals angry, the more conservative they were. And now they find themselves defending slavery. The "party of Lincoln".

[–] ech@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And now they find themselves defending slavery. The "party of Lincoln".

Nothing new. They've been flying the traitors' flag for decades now, moaning on about their "heritage".

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago (7 children)

They are trying to whitewash slavery because they need it to look good for when they bring it back.

Welcome to Post Oil Feudalism

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[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OK if it was no big deal, then you, Dennis Prager, can become a slave.

What? It's suddenly a big deal? Yeah, thought so, you giant piece of shit.

[–] CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Weird how actual slavery was "no big deal" but paying taxes is the worst thing ever because it's tantamount to slavery and theft.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Despite the name, PragerU is not an academic institution and does not hold classes, does not grant certifications or diplomas, and is not accredited by any recognized body.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PragerU#:~:text=Despite%20the%20name%2C%20PragerU%20is,accredited%20by%20any%20recognized%20body.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty fuckin' stupid for that video to say that the US began the conversation on ending slavery when the Haitian revolution began in 1802.

You know, among all of the other fuckin' stupid things in that video.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

It was famously already a well established argument by the time of the drafting of the US constitution. The southern states were deathly afraid their ability to keep slaves would be taken away, which was basically the entire driving motivation behind almost everything they did.

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[–] Sidyctism@feddit.de 43 points 1 year ago

Lol of course its PragerU. I remember they had a similar video defending slave-owners a couple years ago, but at least that one was taken down pretty quickly.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone claiming that should have to try it for a few months.

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[–] CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Yeah, for the slave owners maybe. /s

Fuck Dennis Prager, that smug piece of shit.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Santa not being white

"NOO!! HISTORY AND FACTS MATTERS!!"

Like seriously. These conservatives are the worst.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen pictures of Frederick Douglass.

Frederick Douglass did not look like he thought slavery was "no big deal".

He looked like he'd have beaten your ass to a pulp for even thinking it.

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[–] peto@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

Prager isn't even good by the standards of fake youtube universities.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Historical revisionism… so hot right now.

[–] Thanks4Nothing@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Along the same lines, but not to this level:

A few years back, we had a family member who is at a very extreme end of the political spectrum give my kids a book set that they "saw in a facebook ad" that said it was all about wholesome family values. It was called the "Tuttle Twins."

Not knowing what it was, we started reading them with our kids. The first book we read was fantastic(we read out of order). It talked about pencils, and followed the entire supply chain. Very informational, entertaining, and educational. It wasn't until the 2nd book, and on that the agenda crept in. Funny how when they talked about crime, all of the cartoons of criminals were diverse. When they talked about landscapers and gardeners, they were all depicted as hispanic. It kept getting worse and worse. Talking about education being corrupt, about how much immigration impacted people, and tried to justify a lot of things. We stopped reading early on, but I browsed them all to make sure I wasn't imagining it. Then I googled them, and I realized how bad the propaganda was.

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[–] HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

There's nothing redeemable about PragerU.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

PragerU is a think-tank, not a university.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Conservatives have infested the planet, spreading their diseases of deception, manipulation, bigotry, homophobia, racism, misogyny, antisemitism and xenophobia.

It is inappropriate to do business or keep relationships with conservatives. Do your part to fight conservatism. Exclude them from your daily life.

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