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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

I remember when the LOTR DVD set came with extended version and hours and hours of extra, I watch all of them, it was maybe 20 years ago!! But it was so cool!

Too bad now there is about no more DVD/BD nor extra ☹️

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Memento was fascinating because the menu structure was a fragmented puzzle in and of itself.

There was also an easter egg to play the film in chronologicial order.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I watched the movie all the way through, put in the code and immediately watched it again in chronological order. This was like 2004. I don't think I've watched it since.

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Maybe you don’t remember watching it again.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's dumb is that these extras could still be offered on streaming or digitally purchased videos. Especially the latter; they could straight up give you access to an .ISO of an actual DVD so you even have the menus and whatnot.

[–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

This sounds like an excellent business model, they should allow us to have an app that virtually mounts the dvds iso file so we can have the same experience we did then

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I bought Rogue One on the Google Play Store and it had extras.

It also sucks because each extra is like a movie on my playlist (sometimes, Google/YouTube like to mess about) or sometimes it disappears. I don't know.

I also bought the Rick and Morty season 1-3 and the extras were just videos in the list at the end. Then I moved to Canada from the UK and they just removed my ability to watch any of it any more. Thanks! No refund either!

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How did they know you moved? What if you were just on vacation?

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh, I pay for youtube premium, so I'm doubly-dumb, so in order to pay in Canadian dollars I swapped over.

If I knew I was going to lose all my TV shows I purchased, I wouldn't have. I lost Community, Rick and Morty, Ray Donavan and a few others. Kinda fucked up because I could have just as easily pirated but I chose to go the legit route and I can't watch any of those on my tablet any more.

[–] BK85@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Streaming quality is horrible compared to bluray and a lot of movies never make it to the streaming platforms. DVD's are terrible but I some movies never made it to bluray of streaming.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My wife and I have been visiting half Price books and thrift stores to find dvds and blurays.

Me because I like director/actor commentaries, and behind the scenes/making of features, her because she hates when streaming services cycle through content.

Also secretly I figure if the world ends and I'm somehow alive, I've got my solar setup and several ways to watch my favorite shows to escape the hellish reality that is post-apocalyptic earth as I slowly die from malnutrition or radiation. But that's like.... So far down the list, I usually just bring it up for the lols.

[–] anonymous111@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I also have this thought every few days. I'll bring the irradiated nachos!

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I imagine most people don't care, but I love commentary tracks and behind-the-scenes stuff. I've been ripping all of the extras from my DVD collection and adding them to my Plex server, with the intention of donating the DVDs to my local library once I'm done.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've been thinking of doing this for my server. How do you organize the extra features?

[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://support.plex.tv/articles/local-files-for-trailers-and-extras/

Short answer is put a tag like "-featurette" in the filename, or add a folder to contain the extras.

Jellyfin supports the same structure as far as I can tell. One thing I've found Jellyfin does better is in allowing you to organize extras for TV shows in with each season, while Plex only seems to allow you to dump all the extras into the root folder for the show.

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was hoping someone with experience with Jellyfin would reply here :D. Plex has worked well enough for my needs for a long time, but I keep seeing praise for Jellyfin here on Lemmy and I'm always interested in free and/or open-source alternatives. I've only got a handful of DVDs left to rip, and once I'm done with that I'll be looking into Jellyfin!

[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

I've got both Plex and Jellyfin running at the moment. Plex is nice for sharing with family since it's more plug&play for sharing outside your LAN, and it is certainly a little more polished in some areas.

But I've been very impressed with Jellyfin as well, and would wholeheartedly recommend giving it a whirl. If FOSS appeals to you at all, it's a solid choice.

In most cases, you really should have no issue running them simultaneously if you're not ready to commit to a switch.

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just like @dmention7@lemm.ee said in their reply -- I prefer the "folder" method, over adding the tags to the filenames.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Phase II is borrowing the rest of the dvds from the library and ripping them too

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Serious question: if a streaming-only movie gets added to the National Archive today, how does it get added?

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I guess they request the distributor/streaming service to send them a digital copy.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Somehwere in the archive is just a keychain of Sandisk jumpdrives...

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but is it then written to blue ray? Or ssd? Or USB drive? Or tape?

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Good question. In my country (I've had some contact with people who work in the area) apparently they aim to keep films on film stock, as it is supposedly the most reliable format for long-term preservation, though they also have digital copies too. Now, I wouldn't expect them to retroactively put a digital film on analog stock (anyway, the archive is still primarily working on gathering and preserving the existing film heritage of the country from across the previous century), but the purely digital stuff will hopefully also get whatever is regarded as the most reliable long-term medium. I could personally ask one guy who works there when I get the opportunity, though I don't think I'd get the opportunity any time soon...

[–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Likely the former given how Disney operates, and how Netflix used to mail discs regularly.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean… the best way would probably be tape or archival optical.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's a thing we all took for granted at the time, but I really miss menus. There's something much more complete and professional about the movie and bonus features being presented with an interface that fits the movie rather than the streaming service's generic devoid-of-personality UI.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Hang on, babe, R2 has to roll across the screen first!

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

The extras on a DVD are the thing I absolutely love about DVDs. All my favorites have some amazing extras.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Director's commentary. Try watching Grandma's Boy with the commentary on, it's a whole new movie.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

God damn it now I gotta find this. Piracy supply chains really need to figure out how to completely separate audio and video files in such a way that users can mix and match any.

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Piracy supply chains really need to figure out how to completely separate audio and video files in such a way that users can mix and match any.

It's easy - use MKVToolNix to extract the audio files from the movie in an .mka container (or .ac3, .dts, .thd, .dtshd), and just share those files.

The problem is, most don't do that for whatever reason, so you might have to try downloading a full Blu-ray ISO, or buy the Blu-ray and rip it yourself.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I meant in a way where their split becomes the standard so you can mix and match any video format with any audio format, but it would be even better if the torrent software transparently enabled the tracking and extraction of either independently, while retaining the current bundled/container format. So you can be like, I want that 1080 AV1 version, but also the 5.1/Atmos/whatever because that's best for my sound system.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you want that it's much easier to have the end user combine them than having this option on the supply side. Usually a 'big' rip just includes all the audio tracks that are in the source

Also, you're entering a world of pain called out of sync

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's great! It's Alex, Swordy and Dante. And Dante brings a bong...

E: whoopsy, replied to the wrong comment

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

most media players actually let you do that already and most pirated content includes at least subtitles you can toggle on and off. but if you go for a full Blu Ray iso or remux you'll usually get the commentary track.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ads (most of the time), and especially the ability for streaming sources to insert more ads later on, make them unskippable, make them require interaction to pass, etc.

(I know I worded this wrong based on the question the headline asks, but you get what I'm saying.)

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

DVDs pretty quickly got the front-end trailers that were unskippable, though often fast-forwardable. The ad aspect hasn't really changed. Cutting out the credits is such bullshit though. I'm not pretending I read them, but I want that time to process the ending of a movie set to the song(s) picked for the ending. Getting immediately thrown into a bright peppy ad after a dark ending is so obnoxious.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

At least DVD trailers offer a bit of nostalgia when watching the DVD 20 years later.

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That used to be true, but now Blu-rays and DVDs have almost no ads, at least from my experience it's just the distributor logo, the menu, maybe a 10-second anti-piracy warning, and then the movie starts. I guess all the ads moved to streaming.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that was kind of what I was saying, in a backwards way, because my coffee to blood ratio is too low.

[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Special features, that's all. For shows and movies, piracy covers all that.

[–] Macropolis@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I remember the monsters inc DVD had Sully using boo as a bowling ball in one of the bloopers and I found it hilarious as a kid.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Don't some streaming services, depending on the show, have extra content like bts interviews and stuff? It would be great if more shows had them.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

640x480

DVD quality was terrible

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Extras still come with Blu-ray and 4k.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 0 points 2 months ago