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[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because you need regular, low-intensity interaction. Desensitize yourself purposefully to being around people and this will cease to be a problem.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago (7 children)
[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Swimming in public pools works. Your body stops reading children expressing joy as an alert. And just regular crowd noises stop being an anxious trigger. Then it becomes easier to just be around others.

Or just try walking around in a busy mall regularly to get used to people in public places

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It depends on your life situation and it's not something you can just press a button to fix, but on the other hand it's not going to get better if you ignore it. Things that may help depending on your circumstance:

  • Therapy

  • Taking an in-person class or joining a club

  • If you already have nearby friends, start a regular game night

  • Visit a 'third space' at a consistent time weekly, e.g. coffee shop, bar, library, gym (note: the point is not to practice pickup lines, it's to get used to being around people. If you go regularly, you'll start to feel comfortable with the other regulars)

There are more and I would be interested in hearing if the ones above don't work. I am a pure introvert who kind of lucked my way into a relationship. I still would be happy on a desert island forever but I can recognize that human connection gives me a reason to perform maintenance on my flesh prison, keeps my mental acuity up to stave off the inevitable dementia, and provides a different perspective on reality when I get stuck in a rut.

I want to reiterate that this is not a 'fix', but a process of self improvement. Particularly in the beginning, it'll be mostly unpleasant and hard to stick with. If it's working, you will be exposed to uncomfortable realities that you will have to process. After you have been doing it awhile, though, you'll start to have small wins that can snowball into being the person you want to be.

N.b. I went through this process in my early 20s, so lots of alcohol and hard drugs were involved and made the process easier or maybe harder than it would have been otherwise. I have managed to get appropriately medicated now and probably would approach things differently if I had to do it over again, but the point is to consider ways to work around your personal brain chemistry early on. Maybe anxiety medication, ADHD meds, or just exercise. Obviously your mileage may vary but these are things that can be tried in some cases.

[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Visit a 'third space' at a consistent time weekly, e.g. coffee shop, bar, library, gym (note: the point is not to practice pickup lines, it's to get used to being around people. If you go regularly, you'll start to feel comfortable with the other regulars)

Level 1: Go outside Level 2: Go outside regularly Level 3: Respond to interactions Level 4: Initiate interactions Level 5: Make friends

I wish I could get to Level 2 at least.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

No one's brain works the same so it's pretty hard to suggest boilerplate workarounds, but maybe you can spend money to join something and then feel obligated to go. The hardest part is just wanting to change enough that it overrides the agoraphobia IMO

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ok so presume I am doing level 2, how do I get interactions to respond to

[–] zerozaku@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think they happen naturally if you are visiting same place weekly at the same time. The waiter/cashier/or anyone who is regular to that coffee shop would try to initiate some interaction with you.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

You have given me an idea! Thank uou

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

This is a good idea. Also if you find an employee that is nice. Tell them the truth. You are trying to work on socializing. You’d be surprised a lot of people really are happy to help you if you ask for help 💜

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’ve found when I’m feeling comfortable in public I notice other people’s belongings and can relate it to why I might want to interact with them.

Like if at the store I see someone with a band T-shirt I like I’ll try to just mention to them I’m a big fan and like their shirt. Is it gonna crate a friendship? Who the fuck knows. But I spoke to a stranger. And it wasn’t weird it felt friendly and nice 😊

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Actually the one time I spoke to a girl in the past 6 months was about her BMW. We actually had a good short conversation. What was funny is that when I asked her "hey, is that your BMW?" Because I didn't see her get out of it - her response was "Yes, why?!?!" In a bit of a panic. So even bumpy landings work.

Thanks for that bit.

Maybe I'll go to a local coffee place and just order my white chocolate mocha, and do it enough to say things to people.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Yes! People might respond with initial anxiety and fear. Simply due to surprise. But I’ve found smiling and calm tone can help transfer that into a normal exchange rather than me freaking out internally this person now thinks I’m a rapist/murder cause I said hello 😆

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[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"rest of the fucking owl" meets "wow thanks, I'm cured"

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It takes time to write a reasonable response 😔

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[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Or do the opposite, immersion therapy.

Pour superglue over yourself and glomp the next person you see. After two weeks, you'll be used to being around other people

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

no fuck that. kidnap some random strangers and human centipede yourself. be the middle spoon.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Aside from the many obvious issues with this concept, I expect itd probably WORK

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're lonely but mask around people. It's exhausting.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Bob, I've told you, the bank job was a one-time thing. We got away scot-free. Stop trying to fuck it all up by getting the gang together for "just one more time".

Bob, crying in the corner: im just so lonely

[–] Undaunted@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well, I even manage to feel lonely while I am with others

[–] zedgeist@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

me too thanks

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago

It no longer working is basically the entire reason I'm here now. I paid $2 for "rif golden platinum" while sitting in an A&W back in 2013 and absolutely got my money's worth from that purchase. The mobile Reddit experience is such utter misery in comparison it baffles me that anyone uses it at all.

[–] zedgeist@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

me too thanks

[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

I miss rif too

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am still using it. Thanks to revanced.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There's revanced for reddit?

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

There's ReVanced for a lot of popular apps. YouTube Music ReVanced fixed my major complaint with YTM, where it would play music videos in audio-only mode. Plus the adblocking meant that I could finally cancel Spotify (but I bet there's a Spotify ReVanced as well).

[–] sag@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago
[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 months ago

I wish. I would be cute at least. But I only get to be antisocial :(

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Does anybody have a real answer?

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're a social primate with social anxiety?

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

but i'm not anxious, just irritated

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[–] smb@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

Does anybody have a real answer?

the answer is: probably not. this might be very personal and then the only one who "could" have a real answer, is the one asking for one.

but ideas do exist

what if you want social interaction but what "they" call social interaction actually is not what you want?

maybe you don't want group interaction but instead a single friend to go out and maybe do stupid harmless stuff or watch sth instead?

groups always are different, also people behave different when in groups.

maybe one just choosed the wrong ones to interact with. society has lots of subgroups, some even toxic by their own wish. maybe better choose more wisely.

maybe learn to cope with your personality not beeing ready yet to be part of a group by adding yourself to it slowly?

maybe these are answers, but if they are real ones, who knows?

[–] Vibi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago

There's a social spectrum. There are varying levels of asocial- one being demisocial. Demisocial people want interaction, but normally with a close few people that they have a strong bond with. Put someone who is on the asocial side in a large group and they'll get overstimulated and overwhelmed. It takes time to figure out your social tolerance and what pushes you over the edge. Some people will encourage asocial people to desensitize themselves by forcing themselves into social situations, but that can be extremely unhealthy for them and lead to burnout. There's nothing wrong with anyone who doesn't like huge social settings... Some people just don't like accommodating others so they make it a you problem. Finding your people can be hard and lonely, but it's far more fulfilling when you do.

[–] mayo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Here's another answer!

a) we want to be social

It's in our nature to want to be around other people. It helps us feel safe, create a sense of belonging, is amusing, and provides us with rich experiences that are hard or not possible to achieve on our own. Lots of simple reasons why people want to hang out.

b) but we have an ego

But everyone is walking about with a very intimate/personal concept of self that instructs them how to behave, how to feel, how to respond. Our feelings and thoughts in each moment are shaped by our sense of identity. Our identity isn't actually a fixed, immutable thing. It is constantly shifting, working to conform or be different or just prevent itself from collapsing entirely. The self responds to the environment the same way out bodies do.

c) being social

So we're home alone and wanting some company because we're feeling lonely, but then we arrange ourselves to spend time with others and suddenly our self is on high alert because it's being observed by others. Am I being genuine? Do people like me? Am I talking enough, or too much? Do I look ok? Did I wear the right clothes? Can I share this opinion? What should I say about that? Every conscious thought and unconscious pattern is at play, pulling and poking your sense of self and it can be disorientating and scary.

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[–] lost_tortie@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Maybe… 😼

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like you're around the wrong people??

[–] wafflez@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Or have trauma

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You can't always choose. Even when they do have a choice people can still get anxious around friends.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 2 months ago

I never get alone enough to feel lonely

[–] Jimbo@yiffit.net 3 points 2 months ago
[–] schloppah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
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