this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2024
355 points (98.4% liked)

politics

19090 readers
4617 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 101 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Maybe next time don't support someone that tried to overthrow the government.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 61 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Did they support Trump though? He spoke at the RNC but his speech was vehemently anti-Republican.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah - I was the first to criticize him for thing there, but the speech was very pro-union and a slap in the face to the GOP. He walked into the lion's den giving double-fingers.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The best way to walk into a GOP convention.

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, as someone who lost their job, in part, thanks to Sean O'Brien, I really applauded his speech to the RNC. It was great.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If he cost you your job, you were on borrowed time anyway.

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I definitely won't go into it in details for obvious reasons, it's mostly management failing to negotiate in good faith, just trying to say while I've plenty of personal reason to have beef with him, but really appreciate what he has to say

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

He praised Trump, Vance, and other anti-union politicians in his speech. So, yes?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Dude tried to play both sides against the middle as the GOP was fumbling the ball.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Blue collar union dipshits are a majority Trump supporters and don't think they're voting against their interests. Its not surprising he went to the RNC.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

He never supported Trump. His speech was phenomenal. Maybe you should go listen to it.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 months ago

lol did you listen to his speech at the RNC?

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I recommend actually listening to the speech, he was very much not playing both sides

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The leopards! My facccee!!

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I thought it was a good speech in the right venue. Those asshat haven't heard anything like that. Trump looked confused.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In this thread: "bothering to reach half the country who tends not to agree (or understand) your positions is icky".

Y'all need to get on board with diversity of tactics. Memeing on your ass isn't going to cut it alone.

The union's job is to empower the workers, like it or not, by getting inserted at the RNC, it will have a lasting impact.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Case in point, is it more impactful to hear a criticism of Trump from a DNC speaker or an RNC speaker? Wtf is the actual complaint here?

[–] knightly@pawb.social 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His presence gives the Republicans standing to claim (however falsely) that they're the party of working people.

I get the argument, but it seems to me that the RNC took advantage of him much more than the other way around.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That may be true, but he also got a different kind of message out to a large variety of viewers that was different from the rest of the convention.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Again, I get the argument.

I just hope he thinks it was worth his career, because the union is going to replace him at their next election.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Acceptable losses IMO

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Hydra_Fk@reddthat.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol if you think the bozo who is in a union and votes Republican will ever change their minds about anything. News flash buddy it's ain't logic they are running on. You might as well preach to a wall.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I watched his speech and I am not a Republican voter.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Looks like yeah actually it was pretty shitty for him to give that speech there https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/17/teamsters-sean-obrien-rnc-speech

[–] solarvector@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 months ago

This comment chain has illustrated how effective control over corporate media is. All I knew before was that he spoke at the RNC, and assumed the worst, which I'm sure was the intention. The content of his speech is definitely not widely distributed.

[–] Numenor@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago
[–] ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Alternative Headline: Union boss who sold out for power flip-flops after angering its paying members and realizing he will likely lose current position next union election cycle. This and more at 11....

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Did you watch his speech? He wasn't there cause he sold out. He was there to give a message. Your kneejerk reaction shows you didn't even watch his speech.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

No shit right?

Most lemmings don't seem to be able to get past a sophmore level of analysis on politics.

To Lemmy users who just don't get it: The headline was "Headline speaker at night one of RNC refuses to endorse Trump"

Sean O’Brien used the RNC as a platform to deliver the most pro-labor, pro-progressive, anti-capitalist speech of ALL TIME. As in, hands down, the most progressive speech, at ANY major party political convention EVER.

He took the platform, and didnt endorse the candidate. Do you have any idea how big of a fucking deal that is?

If you are mad that Sean O'Brien took the opportunity to use a platform he was offered to speak truth to power, this is you:

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

To be fair it hasn't paid dividends weeding through mountains of vitriolic, bigotry and small-mindedness for a literal diamond in the rough. It's not too far fetched to see how many could think speaking at a party convention for fascist asshats is a tacit endorsement.

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah thats not happening

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He didn't sell out for power.

He sold out because Teamsters leadership is racist as fuck.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Did he sell out at all though?

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Dickhead trying to crawl back.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Slams! Dut duh duh, dut duh duh. Let the boys be boys!

[–] Lookorex@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Well THAT'S a blast from the past

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Come on and slam and welcome to the jam!

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 2 months ago

Pump up the jam

load more comments
view more: next ›