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Last two weeks every time I use Piped I am getting error "Sign in to confirm you are not a bot". It happens on every instance and videos work very rarely. It seems like Google enforces you to log in if you try watch lot of videos from one IP. I hope this will not be end of Piped and there will be solution for this problem.

Upd. I got similar problem on Invidious recently

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[–] brownmustardminion@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 month ago

I operate an invidious instance. Google has really cracked down the past two weeks on YouTube front ends. Its extremely frustrating.

Invidious devs are finalizing a workaround so hopefully things will be working again in the next week or two.

[–] BelatedPeacock@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Seems to be a big crackdown lately. Freetube and Grayjay are the only apps that seem to consistently work.

[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Grayjay is proprietary, so I don't think it is very good for privacy and freedom

[–] hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

Newpipe appears to be working

[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

FreeTube also doesn't work well

[–] Certainly_No_Brit@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The advantage of FreeTube is that if it doesn't work, it can use an Invidious instance as a fallback.

[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Invidious doesn't work now lol

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I've noticed Invidious instances having trouble recently as well. I'm sure they're not dead though, just need to get the next mouse for the endless cat and mouse game.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can usually find an invidious instance if you look through redirect.invidious.io. For example, if I try the servers for https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=aQsWzL7_RiI the 6th one down currently works.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah I usually just follow the "try another instance" links until one works.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Seen the same thing. You have to hop around to get high quality

[–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago

Same thing I've noticed with invidious instances lately. My clipious on Android is broken more often than not. Freetube still seems solid although I think they each use different apis.

[–] net00@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

google has been blocking any IP that uses lots of youtube bandwidth, and that means any public instance needs to do IP rotation.

I also heard they began blocking all IPs belonging to some cloud providers.

I run my own invidious instance from my home servr. Only I use it, so it'll never be blocked, but I don't have the same anonymity as if using a public instance...

It's mostly for the benefits of using youtube ad-free without a google account, while having local bookmarks, watch-later, and subscription feed. If that's your main goal Invidious is really easy to set-up.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My main fear of running it on my home server is they will block my IP address and my entire household can't use Google products anymore.

[–] mihor@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] piracysails@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Imagine having to explain to a casual user, SO, sibling or parent that you, while fighting to preserve your anonymity, google blocked the house. xD

[–] Kory@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Same discussion from 4 days ago with the link to the respective Github issue: https://lemmy.ml/post/18936433

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Sometimes you can find an instance that works but you have to go through a lot of them and it may only work for a few minutes or even less. Invidious doesn't work at all for me. I hope they find a workaround because I already started committing a very serious crime against my freedom by visiting youtube.com

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

NewPipe is broken for me. When I go to try to open the videos in my mobile browser, YouTube gives me the same error. So, YouTube itself is pretty much bricked to me on mobile, since I refuse to register an account.

I'm unsure if the behavior would persist if I disabled my VPN, but fuck that.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Same for me. Started watching youtube videos in firefox with ublock origin, works perfectly fine.

On a side note, Smart Youtube for Android tv still works perfectly fine.

[–] piracysails@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I have had the same issue. For me the last few weeks I keep changing VPN servers due to them being blocked.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you're looking for an ad-free client that still works right now; In the 6 years I've been using YouTube (re)vanced on android, I've only had it fail to play videos for 1 single day around 6 months ago. That was fixed within 24hrs.

Not quite the same as a full custom instance/frontend like piped; but it'll do the job while you wait for updates.

[–] Cris16228@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not really privacy friendly, right? I don't exactly know how it patches the apk and what it changes but it doesn't remove trackers. Correct me if I'm wrong

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ah, I should have double checked the community.... Got here from /all.

No, it's not explicitly privacy friendly. It's mainly focused on a wide variety of optional UX changes, returning several paywalled features like PIP/Background playback, and removing advertising as well as providing sponsor block.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Now I've tried almost all of them in the Piped instances list (Several domain name for sale and server not found errors) and only the smnz.de one works for me. :( I am wondering whether a freshly installed self-hosted private Piped video instance will work fine.

[–] countrypunk 4 points 1 month ago

Yup. I've had the same issue with invidious. Hope it'll get fixed soon. Freetube works for now.

[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You could use instance on my VPS it's not blocked yet. However it's http only :/

http://invidious.duckdns.org

[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why you can't just issue Let's Encrypt certificate via certbot?

[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

I don't know configuring cert always feels scary to me even though it's probably not that difficult

[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I am looking for Piped instance for LibreTube, but this is better than nothing. Than you!

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The instances list is not up to date :

https://piped.smnz.de/watch?v=bBhDWTZDH9c

There's probably more working instances.

Plan B : I guess running your own Piped instance and not sharing it with a lot of people could be worth considering.

Personally I'm sticking to https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Yt-dlp#Faster_downloads for the video downloading I do.

[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Works for me still (Using Tor browser. I'm Europe located).

[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Indeed. I tried on mobile with LibreTube and with Mull and both fail. And also fails now in Tor browser. The list is getting shorter.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

It happens once in a while. I would continue moving instances or using over services.

Google is actively attacking so it takes time to come up with a defense. In the end Google is just making us stronger. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger after all.

[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It is not IP blacklist by Google. Seems like YouTube can now detect NewPipe extractor.

[–] illegalflyer@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I started using grayjay and although it still gets blocked sometimes restarting the app usually works

[–] NahMarcas@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dont know if can help but if you search the direct server to a specific instance maybe can jump the problem. For example: lunar.icu instance can work if you search piped.lunar.icu or kavin.rocks instance by piped.kavin.rocks. Sometimes if the instance work can be useful

[–] user_naa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Frontend doesn't matter. And I am watching videos primarily via LibreTube Android app

[–] Pacrat173@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Same problem here is there any other solutions for iOS?