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MeanwhileOnGrad

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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!


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Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia(Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.

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Update: I got banned from hexbear and grad lmao

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 66 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ah, I see you said something controversial, like "Theocracy bad" or "Imperialist capitalist state bad". The tankies don't like those positions for some reason.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 49 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Bruh I poked the hexbear once when a dude was arguing over exactly how to classify the Uyiger genocide. Something about how "it's not a genocide, but just an ethnic cleansing" they really didn't like when I pointed out just how weird of an argument that is. Fascists usually short circuit pretty fast under redicule

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

it's not a genocide, but just an ethnic cleansing

Those are synonyms, FFS. 🤦‍♂️

Dude needs to crack open a dictionary or a thesaurus.

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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (48 children)

My experience on lemmy is vastly improved after blocking lemmygrad, lemmy.ml, hexbear, beehaw, and pawb. Wiped out vast swathes of degenerates from my feed.

Sure, occasionally poking them with a stick can be funny, but if you don't like your scrolling punctuated with muttering "oh fuck off" under your breath every few minutes -- it's nice.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 46 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Beehaw? I’ve had nothing but good interactions with them, personally.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Beehaw? The most adorable place in the lemmy space IMO!

If you don't like them fine, but please reconsider lumpung them together with the crazy fascist ones please 😊

[–] Jimbo@yiffit.net 21 points 3 months ago (34 children)

??? (Mostly) Nothing wrong with Beehaw or pawb.social, most are good people around those parts

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[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 months ago (12 children)

I've never been able to figure out the basic ideas behind their opinions. It's something like US conservatives, where it's something stupider than you can even guess at, but less predictable.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Understand that some or most of the key posters there are literally pawns of Russian or Chinese intelligence. Troll farms, wumao, what have you. Whether they are literally government employees or contracted through a third party, their purpose is to astroturf positive optics of their employer and negative optics of the US/the West as a whole. A more sinister interpretation, they are trying to destabilize the West by doing things like trashing Biden, now Harris, hoping to secure a chaotic and inwardly destructive Trump presidency.

Anything they say is to service these goals, anything they believe is mutable to these goals, and nothing they argue is in good faith.

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[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I've seen some downright insane takes on how what the Chinese are doing to the Uighurs is not as bad as it seems.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've been there, but I mostly just do it anyway. Fuck it, I said what I said. Half the time you don't even get anything all that cutting, it's just png salad. Every now and then, you'll get a coherent response that isn't a death threat, and those end up being good reads more often than not.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

Eh, more often than not their longer posts are just "actually Stalin/Putin/Mao/Kim dynasty/Trump good because <5 page essay>"

Edit: also the classic "comparing Stalin to Hitler is a form of Holocaust denial" and in the same breath calling everyone not in their vatnik bubble a nazi or fascist lmao

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[–] IDew@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago

Yeah I don't think much of it either.. They just take offense to something doesn't even apply to them lol

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I got banned from hexbear and lemmygrad like a year ago without ever even posting in either community, just for arguing with some of their users under a post on lemmy.ml

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only surprise there is that you weren't banned from lemmy.ml also.

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[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Very happy to be on an instance that blocks them entirely. The couple of weeks we were federated was a couple of weeks too long honestly.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Actually they blocked us first lmao.

It was great. They made a whole event about how they will dunk all of Lemmy and fill every thread with their spam... Just to realise they're not in a safespace anymore and they defederated themselves in less than 24 hours.

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[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

.ml is the same way. People were getting deleted left and right for posting about Maduro fixing the election in Venezuela. Not realizing it's freaking .ml. Even when told, "the mods are just enforcing the instance rules" they didn't get it.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There’s a few mods that bans people just for being liberal there. What fucking clowns man. Then their little minions come to .world and whine about how they’re treated unfairly when they troll.

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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure I'm shadowbanned because I'm over there railing on those CCP husks all the time and they almost never respond.

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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago (28 children)

I’ve got them and all the other after school instances blocked.

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[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 months ago

So before I knew shit about the fediverse I was trying to find and instance and I thought "oh neat I'm a leftist," and created an account on hexbear. I was not prepared at all for that. I didn't know what a tankie was and I was just legit confused for a minute.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You just comment something like "humans good" and the pro-russia tankies start arguing with the anti-russia tankies under your comment...

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago

Can relate, the people from that instance are bonafide shitrilers, born a century too late to join Hitler's youth so they join hexbear instead.

[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (17 children)

I'm new here, I don't even know what the fediverse is. What does this mean?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 26 points 3 months ago (7 children)

As Goat has said, this platform (Lemmy) is comprised of instances, some, like Lemmy.world, are general instances, and some have a specific theme or type of content they cater to. There's one for furry porn, one for regular porn, for example, and one for utterly insufferable Internet communists who make a point of behaving badly in other communities.

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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The fediverse is an interconnected community composed of instances. Every website is its own instance that can communicate with other instances

So right now I'm on sh.itjust.works, and you're on lemmy.world.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

And that's how I wound up banned from hexbear.

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[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Communists are somewhat like collapsniks. I don’t want to bully or torment them, life kicked their butt already. But tankies, damn they deserve some bullying from time to time for all the stupid shit they say.

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