Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)
Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.
Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc
(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama
Tags: fediverse news, lemmy news, lemmyverse
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Names blurred to protect the innocent / crazy. Not trying to call anyone out, just thought the response was hilarious and highly disproportionate. Like, they distinguished that comment (green border/background).
For reference, the comment I presume that was downvoted that apparently triggered that response was to the tune of "BoTH SiDEz!!!!" with some hyper generalizing / stereotyping on the side.
Talk about reddit brained. Why do downvotes matter to so many people? There is no karma count except for individual comments. You don't know what someone downvotes for so why get worked up over it?
If you don’t like downvotes (like me!) join an instance with disabled downvotes. Simple solution. I don’t know why OOP hasn’t disabled downvotes on their instance.
If someone indicates they dislike a narcissist's content it shatters their ego.
Maybe they downvote without commenting because they get banned when they comment?
Idk the instance, but it's pretty funny calling down voting undemocratic when it's the only means of voting on comments and you effective rigged that election lol
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I am of the firm belief after much deliberation and consideration that it actually is awesome that downvotes are public and it makes for a much more responsible voting environment overall. To suffer the problems of bots and agitators is not preferable to this small but meaningful way of encouraging highlighting the opinions of actual human beings more democratically
I'm in that minority too.
Votes impact visibility of content.
Obviously, we should try to move from the up/down system to a more granular one, but for now it seems fair to call out people who abuse the system by systematically downvoting content they disagree with.
If you don't like a community, just block it and move on. If a comment or post breaks the rules, report it.
When you wrestle a pig, you both get dirty and the pig enjoys it. Some people aren't worth arguing with. Down voting because a comment adds nothing to the discussion also often gets mistaken for down voting because you disagree, especially if the person being down voted is a troll just looking for ANY response to feed their need to fight.
Some people aren’t worth arguing with. D
Agree, but then just ignore their posts?
Really, how dare we downvote someone on their own server? It's silencing and undemocratic and they have no real arguments and are all American puppets anyway.
This user and those who agree with them are the only reasonable people. In fact, agreeing with them is the only way to be reasonable. \s
ITT:
"Downvotes are spam! (12)"
"I think it's a little more nuanced than that (-7)"
Just got banned for calling out a troll
I'd love to know, as this individual's instance is one I'd love to block, I don't want to run into them in the wilds of Lemmy if it could be helped. They've got to have a lot of weird takes that I simply don't want to see.
No need to block, I know exactly who that is.
You can't block an instance, can you? (I mean as a user, not an instance owner.) Except by blocking all communities on said instance, of course.
Edit: Ah. I see it now. In Lemmy-UI, under settings, hit the "blocks" tab and scroll down. Thanks, folks.
You can, at least partially.
If your instance is on 0.19.0 or above, you can block instances at the user level. You won't see posts from any community there, but you will see posts from users there to communities on other instances, and you will still see comments from users on that instance.
It basically works as a "block all communities from this instance".
You can. I have a couple instances blocked, like that yiff one and the porn one.
I do think it's unfortunate that votes aren't public to non-instance-owners. That'd be a nice thing to change. I might see if I can find any existing tickets on the topic or whatever.
(Sorry, I know it's weird to make two top-level comments on the same post, but this one's sufficiently unrelated to my other one, I figured it made sense.)
What do you mean votes aren't public? I see the up vote / down vote on this comment in fact.
Everyone can see the count of both upvotes and downvotes. But instance owners can also see the usernames of who upvoted and who downvoted a given post/comment. (Probably also the list of all posts/comments a given user has upvoted/downvoted, I think?) And not just users on the same instance. Users from other instances too.
I think I've heard that the usernames of users who upvoted/downvoted things are also public info on Kbin. (Not just to instance owners, but also to regular users.)
Up/Downvotes usernames are publicly visible via the API to everyone. Kbin shows users this, lemmy does not.
Ah. Ok. I might see if I can track down specifically which endpoint that is at some point.
Only upvotes
On stock Kbin, you could see the usernames of whoever downvoted you. But it also only synced downvotes from within its own instance, so you wouldn't see downvotes on your posts if the were from outside instances. I think that may be a server-side setting that Ernest had enabled on Kbin.social, so I think Kbin can be configured for either option.
I believe that technically, the list of users who downvote is public on all instances, but it requires having some means of pulling that data out of the API, as it's usually not displayed in the default web UI.
I've looked around a bit at the API and haven't found it, but I didn't look too exhaustively. I might look again when I get a second.
Mods can to from the back-end but the front-end hasn't caught up yet with the feature: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4392
Good to know. Looks like that backend change is in Lemmy version 0.19.4 and newer (which is why it didn't work with a {"error":"not_an_admin"} when I ran a test on Lemmy.World which is still on 0.19.3 using a post in a community I'm a mod of). Thanks for pointing me to that PR.
You are welcome!
This is unprofessional admin behaviour. No one is crazy, it’s ableist to claim anyone is such.
