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For context, it's the elite media types who are pushing for some sort of contested convention — not the bulk of the Democratic voters.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Even if we had gone to an open convention, you should have expected whomever to come out of it with a massive head of steam behind them.

Biden was and is wildly unpopular. Historically so. Maybe he recovers a bit between now and the end of days. People get rose colored glasses and all, but he was absolutely bringing the entire nation down.

That all being said, and as one who is now officially "in the coconut tree", she sure af did whip up a frenzy in 24 hours. Its like, Obama level energy on the calls rn. Just goes to show you how defective the poltical "wisdom" that we needed to stick with Biden was. I still think just about any candidate would have caught this energy, but there were real problems with almost any other candidate other than Harris. I also think they left money on the table not taking it to an open convention, but its def a trade off. 3 weeks of campaigning versus about a bil. in free advertising that an open conv would have represented? Also was an opportunity to win back some good grace with voters by injecting at least a modicum of democracy into the DNC.

But yeah. That call with the Black Women for Harris, and then the next day with Black men for Harris. I mean thats historic.

This is nuts, and I'm waiting for literally any useful polling to come out (not realistic for at least another 2 weeks), but I've been reviewing the 2016 and 2020 district maps for Florida since Friday, digging back into those results.

Hottest dumbest take: I think Florida might go for Kamala. It went Obama twice, and it was black women and black men in the state of Florida that made that happen. I wont have the data fully worked up and the redistricting makes it more difficult, but at least in the aggregate, its at lease within the MOE if we assume things to be 'fairly' similar to 2012, 2016 and 20.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

She’s not finished.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago

Because they were sleepwalking into a slow moving disaster.

Now it is thier race to loose, because it felt like they were going to loose anyway so they might as well go for broke.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Who else was there?

Half the reason everyone people shushed calls for Biden to drop out was the total absence of anyone it woulda "shoulda been." And if he hadn't, the same "but will he? but will he? but will he?!" would hound the campaign every goddamn day. Talking heads would go "... and that's the third baby The Idiot fucked. In other news, is Biden going to drop out before tomorrow's election? Here's sixteen people to discuss what that'd mean for the horse race."

Meanwhile all the headlines on Lemmy are about right-wing bigots attacking her, instead of being about... her.

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