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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Apparently dead people are voting all over the place.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Many people are saying so.

[–] OopsAllTwix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

It's such a great metric.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 3 months ago

The maga camp is so steeped in conspiracy theories I can't even tell if this is supposed to be a pro or anti-trump tweet

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

This guy wants non-US citizens to vote for TRUMP!!! STOLEN ELECTION!!!!

[–] shield_gengar@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Should I know who this is?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No. A crazy man who says a lot of crazy things and gets on shows like Rogan's.

[–] shield_gengar@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Sounds good ty. Honestly, curating your online experience reduces anxiety, by a lot.

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What the Anunnaki? Surely they are smarter than that.

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

The Annunaki are coming back, clearly some of the species needs a second dose of the brain enlargement gene therapy

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

I don’t suspect he has the Egyptian vote

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The people who built them, no. But the slavers who ordered them built…

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Historians don't think the great pyramid were built by slaves, but farmers paying their taxes through labor for the kingdom.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just grueling labor enforced with the threat of violence then.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or religious zeal. Or boredom.

There's some speculation that the Pyramids were a kind of jobs program - the proverbial Keynesian "paying people to dig holes and fill them up again" trick to a perpetual growth economy - that gave Egypt a degree of stability and developed culture not seen outside the region for centuries.

The original Pharaohs came to power as a religiously-themed accounting/insurance bureaucracy. They administered the stockpiles of reserve grain after the harvest and paid it back out again during the growing season. But in traditional corrupt bureaucratic fashion, leveraged their control over the information of who was owed what and how much to accrue wealth to themselves. Then they started leveraging their newfound wealth to commission large arts projects - palaces and sculptures and such - as the population grew larger and more sophisticated. Finally, they were mobilizing tens of thousands of artisans and laborers to build these super massive tombs. The system worked for thousands of years, until they were colonized by neighboring territories with even more advanced technology and sophisticated bureaucracy.

But the idea that it was just a big guy with a whip hitting a bunch of smaller guys misses how these large theocratic governments functioned in practice. The real power of the throne was the ability to read and write, to know how much agricultural surplus the country had accrued in prior years, and to cultivate favors through the timely repayment of debts. The accounting system gave people a sense of equity and reliability, which became a means of justifying violence when it was periodically doled out. Faith in the system was so high that its administrative leadership was considered god-like, via their ability to successfully manage a large population of agricultural workers so successfully.

It wasn't violence that compelled people to build the pyramids. It was trust in the reliability of a large and efficient bureaucracy.

Plus...a worker's village excavated on the Giza plateau contained large rows of bakeries, evidence that the workers ate meat, fish and vegetables, had extraordinarily good healthcare (evidence of life saving amputations and setting of broken bones, etc).

Imagine you're an individual young man in ancient Egypt, and it word comes around that the king is building the world's biggest triangle or whatever, and they need help moving the giant stone blocks. Any young men who volunteer will be fed lots of great food and beer. They're recruiting young women in the tens of thousands to work in the kitchens, bakeries and breweries.

"Hey I think I'm going to Giza to check out this big triangle thing."

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought they worked for alcohol

[–] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

Don't we all?

[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So, slavery with extra steps

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are taxes slavery? This was the method they had.

[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is forced labor under the threat of violence slavery?

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

Not when the alternative is to pay a percentage if your income like everyone else

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

laughs in dated Rick & Morty bit

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 12 points 3 months ago

I mean, they wouldn't have a right to vote in America...

[–] sxan@midwest.social 11 points 3 months ago

Well, in one sense, duh: they were theocracies, much like MAGA. In another sense, no, because the people who literally built the pyramids didn't get to vote, much like it'll be if Trump is reelected.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

You mean slaves?

[–] sxan@midwest.social 0 points 3 months ago

Well, in one sense, duh: they were theocracies, much like MAGA. In another sense, no, because the people who literally built the pyramids didn't get to vote, much like it'll be if Trump is reelected.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

The Jewish slaves?