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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 87 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

I hate maps that don't have North as up. Why why why.

As for this, usually there are rivers that drain into seas. You need to have a plan for those too. Here is the drainage basin for the baltic sea:

So no not feasible.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where is that map from? At least two of the Finnish rivers are titled with the name of a tributary, but with the correct name.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Found on duck duck go images, vividmaps.com which looks like random maps.

Are you Finnish? I have a question if you are.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So the US, Canada, and Finland just joined an icebreaker design consortium. And I'm wondering why Finland knows icebreakers. Do they need them in the baltic?

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

https://akerarctic.fi/en/arctic-passion/world-icebreakers-overview/

Finland leads the world Following World War II, Finnish companies made rapid advancements in icebreaking technology, pushing the state of the art in icebreaking design, construction, power supply, and propulsion systems. Today, Finland is a global leader in icebreaker design and construction, with most of the world’s icebreakers originating from Finnish expertise. Naturally, every single icebreaker in service in Finland has been designed and constructed locally.

Doesn't really fully answer the question, but yeah basically we have a lot of ice and shipping routes on the coastlines both west and south

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Interesting, thanks.

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, the northern parts of the gulf of Bothnia tend to freeze up during the winter.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 1 points 3 months ago

Have traveled to Finland a couple of times and one of those rivers was familiar to me.

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Alternate plan (as it would be a shame to waste a dam): Keep the dam, flood the Baltic sea until Kaliningrad is under water?

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Even when it makes the body of water look like a velociraptor?

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's a shame. I like the dam plan.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

It was damned from the start.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

Even worse when there's no compass that indicates north.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But there's a chance that, cut off from the sea, the water collected wouldn't be enough to offset losses (evaporation, etc), right? Kind of like how the Mediterranean was dry when it was cut off from the Atlantic?

[–] Noobnarski@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Well, no, its too far north for that to happen.

A telling sign is that the baltic sea gets less salty the further you go away from its connection to the north sea. That means that the water is flowing out of the baltic sea, so putting a dam there would only slowly rise the sea level.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

What if it was a hydroelectric dam?

[–] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Completely unfeasable, Denmark doesn't understand the concept of funding infrastructure unless its highways

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Surely they could put a highway on top of the dams.

[–] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We already have tolled highways exactly where those dams would be :(

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

They’d just drive in the empty oceans with their tanks and it’d be a land assault.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 14 points 3 months ago

Instead of draining it, they could build the dam between Finland and Estonia, to force them to sail the long way around Scandinavia to reach it.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Have you ever tried to drive a tank through soft muddy terrain? Those tanks will sink into the muck at the bottom and be stuck.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

I’ll drive my tank through your soft muddy terrain if you get my drift.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 months ago

Russians are world champions on driving tanks through muddy soil. Or at least trying to.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, when the land forces are positioned equidistant from each shore, release the damns and flood the fuckers.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

PT-76s are bisexual.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

There was once a proposal to dry up the Mediterranean to make more land. Turns out that if the insane plan was implemented it would have laid waste to all of Europe.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Extremely credible

[–] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 16 points 3 months ago

Just enforce a Blockade between Finland and Estonia and block access to the Baltics from Germany and Denmark. Gotta starve the militarys in Russia.

[–] suzune@ani.social 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dude, there are some people who are enjoying their holidays at the sea.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago

Fuck them, I live on the coast, I don't want to live close to a steppe

[–] verity_kindle@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 5 points 3 months ago

Bad map bad map bad bad bad map map map.

[–] PM_ME_WRISTS_GIRL@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 3 months ago

Where is Findland? I can't fin it.

[–] ben_dover@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

could we please not fuck around with nature?

[–] muzzle@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

Big atlantropa vibes!

[–] graycube@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don't dry it up. Just make it too shallow.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 6 points 3 months ago

Just run a rumor that Japanese missile boats are around the area, let nature take its course.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Technically not possible. It's easier to build a dyke between Poland and Lithuania and between Estonia and Finland.