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probably a stupid question but is it worth the hassle just for a webp image unless it is to piss of a company or a person then i see a reason why

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[–] silentdon@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Owning an NFT is analogous to owning a receipt. You don't actually own the image and paying for one means you fell for a scam. Pointing that out is enough to piss off any NFT owners.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually like the idea of using them as nothing more than fancy receipts. They could be used to disintermediate creators and fans, with the right platform and technology combo.

[–] silentdon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I agree. An idea that I liked was that NFTs can be used to transfer items from one game to the next. Like a rare gun in COD can be transferred into Skyrim where it is a rare armor or something.

[–] Gamey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, you are in a technical place here on Lemmy and we where all shocked how many fell for that bs, feel free to rant cuz you won't find many crypto bros here! ;)

[–] nestEggParrot@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Apparently many people are banking on a rebound.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 36 points 1 year ago

There is no such thing as pirating an nft because the data is public. It's freely available to download to everyone. What is valued by the market is the actual token associated with that data, which you cannot reproduce

By pirating an NFT you mean saving the image? Because the owner of an NFT doesn't always own the copyright or license.

[–] TokyoMonsterTrucker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why would you pirate something with no intrinsic value? It'd be like stealing seawater. Piracy requires booty, NFTs have none.

[–] lemming007@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Don't insult seawater, it definitely has more value than NFT

[–] small44@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is it even worth it to pirate NFTs, all the nft I saw has poor artistic value

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And to be even more worthless, the NFTs aren’t even the image.

[–] Terramaris@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

The NFT is not an image. The NFT is the token on the block chain. You can copy an image all you want, but thats not pirating an NFT. NFTs are inherently unpirateable.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

For what purpose? If you like it for a wallpaper out whatever... Sure?

[–] idkman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Technically NFT, a token is linked/owned by a wallet address. Which you cannot pirate/dublicate.

But in case of nft images, those tokens are linked to an image on ipfs through dapps, which you can download. But there is legal uncertainty about these images.

[–] dirtypirate@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ttt3ts@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure this is fake. I tried to get them when this was released. It is garbage.

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Spoiler: NFTs are fake.

[–] midnightlightning@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That torrent is an "art piece" the creator made to raise awareness of NFTs. This video shows an interview with the artist who created that project: https://youtu.be/i_VsgT5gfMc

The first half of the video (and the overall reason for creating that torrent) is exaggerated and over-generalizes what NFTs are in order to claim "a problem" with them, but the second half does have a good discussion about the technology itself (educating users that scams exist in any technology, and because it's new and different, there's less guardrails to help users avoid scams automatically, so you need to be vigilant yourself).

[–] ElBarto@lzrprt.sbs 5 points 1 year ago

should you pirate ~~an image or an nft~~

Pirate everything possible.

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 4 points 1 year ago

Kek Nfts lol 💩

Nobody even wants the real ones 😂

[–] midnightlightning@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To "pirate" a digital item is to get access to something you're not supposed to (e.g. software you're only supposed to have if you buy a license to it). Downloading the image of an NFT is just fine as it's public content. If you then claim that image is your creation (claim to be the artist) or profit of it (commercial use) that's more drastic. For many NFTs the graphic attached to them isn't the valuable part of the asset (e.g. the access it grants, or the voting power it authorizes, or how it interacts with a digital game/space is the key thing that only the owner can do); you having a copy of the thumbnail image doesn't change the abilities the owner has (and therefore the value of the actual token).

[–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

WebP? Don't even bother. JPEG XL, on the other hand, is legendary.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Pirate anything you want, IP doesn't exist, so you can't steal it. You can't be guilty of poaching unicorns.

[–] Pulp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

For what purpose and what do you mean exactly

[–] tallwookie@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i see it as a philosophical question really: is a digital copy equal to the original? I postulate that it isnt - a copy is a different object, it resides on a different computer, and occupies space on that computer's storage media.

so, if you're making a copy, it's not really "piracy" because the copy you made isnt the original. the original has value (imagined or otherwise)

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

But the "original" isn't an original either. They are both just computer files. Strings of bytes that a program knows how to interpret. If you think there's any special value to the specific instance of that string of bytes on your hard drive, then sorry to say but it gets destroyed every time you defrag your hard drive (because it is not that exact sequence of bytes anymore, it's a copy in a different sector of the drive)