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The vast majority of the massive, metallic towers the city commissioned to help low-income neighborhoods access high-speed 5G internet still lack cell signal equipment -- more than two years after hundreds of the structures began sprouting across the five boroughs. Just two of the nearly 200 Link5G towers installed by tech firm CityBridge since 2022 have been fitted with 5G equipment, company officials said. Delayed installations and cooling enthusiasm around 5G technology have discouraged carriers like Verizon from using the towers to build out their networks, experts say. The firm only has an agreement with a single telecommunications carrier to deliver high-speed internet, stymieing its efforts to boost mobile connectivity citywide.

The 32-foot-tall structures, which resemble giant tampon applicators emerging from the sidewalk, offer the same services as the LinkNYC electronic billboards that popped up around the city in 2016. Those were also installed by CityBridge. Both the original Link kiosks and the 5G towers provide free limited-range Wi-Fi, charging outlets and a tablet to connect users to city services. Data shared by the company shows that 16 million people have used the internet at kiosks since 2016, and the attached tablets are used to call for city services thousands of times each month. But unlike the LinkNYC kiosks, each new tower is topped with a 12-foot-tall cylindrical mesh chamber containing five empty shelves reserved for companies like Verizon and T-Mobile to store the equipment they use to transmit high-speed 5G internet service to paying customers.

Emphases mine because of that hilarious but completely spot-on description..

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[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Incredibly ugly. I assume that these are either meant for mmwave or are just some marketing push? Because 5g doesn't require new towers.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Incredibly ugly.

Who cares? I don't understand why people always complain about how cell towers look when they're in the middle of...a concrete and steel city. Oh yea, the tower is SO ugly in how it interrupts your view of the concrete building behind it...

I can understand a cell tower in the middle of the woods or something.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Those buildings are brick. Also I think most people prefer trees sticking out of the sidewalk than gigantic tubes with tampons on top. NYC isn't that good at it, but urban design is just as important as suburban design, probably even more important.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I didn't mean literally concrete. Just look at the image

In addition to the "ugly" tower you have

  • A street light
  • Ny Metro Railway
  • Metal scaffolding
  • Metal storefronts
  • Metal fire escapes
  • Brick buildings
  • Asphalt

You sound like one of those NIMBY people who complain about the "ugly" cell towers and then in the same breath complain about their crappy cell signal

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, NYC isn't exactly a clean city, sure. I think NIMBYs are more likely to complain about there being apartment buildings in general. Traditional cell towers can be mounted on buildings and painted to match the bricks in an urban environment. If this was the only way to get cell signal in NYC, then I guess, but I have 5g at my apartment in Stockholm, and all of our cell towers are mounted on buildings.

Here's an example of a pretty 5g tower in a nice looking city environment on Karlavägen in downtown Stockholm:

Kinda ugly with the 4 lane street in this picture, but you can see how cities can have both trees and 5g without tampons.

Honestly, my main issue is just with how thick that pole is. If it was just another light pole I think it would be fine, but that thing is thicker than the trees, and even traffic light poles. It dominates the sidewalk space.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah, I see the confusion. Those small site towers are great for dense urban areas like the cities you guys have in the EU and major major (like NYC) cities here in the US

Anywhere else in the US though, they suck because they just don't have the range and power and our cities tend to sprawl. Even in our biggest cities, once you get out of the core, the sprawl gets ridiculous really really fast. These are what you'll typically find around here:

Oh and believe me, those NIMBYs will start complaining about multifamily housing followed by the homeless in the second breath after their rant on cell towers

[–] eutampieri@feddit.it 1 points 3 months ago

We have these in Europe too

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 4 points 3 months ago

Article doesn't say, but likely. Normally when they're deployed that densely, they're either very low power spot coverage or high frequency which doesn't have much penetration/range.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How much less obtrusive do you think they can make it?

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

These look like mmWave towers. We have them in my city, they’re more comparable to streetlights (often installed on top of one) than traditional cell towers. They’re mostly used for home internet rather than cellphones.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One step closer to ~~being able to freeze all motor functions~~ social perfection:

Street-level control towers in Westworld, designed to emit a sonic pulse that can manipulate everyone with a control unit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYAZIbsmvP0

[–] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 3 months ago

Came here to say this. They give me the creeps.

[–] NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But they really make the place look nice, right? How do people approve stuff like this?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh yea, can't have that tower taking away from the scenery that is the NY metro Railway, or the street light, or the metal storefronts and scaffolding /s

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

My house may look like shit but that doesn't mean I have to use trash to decorate my garden.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 3 points 3 months ago

I mean, they don't look terrible, but you can never unsee the comparison.