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Dr Disrespect Knowingly Sent Explicit Messages to a Minor, Former Twitch Employee Says (www.rollingstone.com)

submitted 4 months ago by Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world to c/games@sh.itjust.works

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“I recall that Dr Disrespect was made aware by the individual that they were underage during the conversation, after which he indicated that this was no problem and continued on,” the former employee says. “There was no confusion. Messages sent after this was acknowledged were no less graphic and in sexually explicit nature than before, and I think more than the categorization of ‘leaning too much in the direction of being inappropriate’ might indicate.”

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 58 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I didn't have any respect for him before, and now I guess I have disrespect.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 24 points 4 months ago

It's what the doctor ordered.

[+] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -42 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I am willing to believe the accusations, but I won't take the word of people who tried to weasel out of his contract termination fees.

If they had evidence of sexting in 2017 then why didn't they report it to the police? Why quietly ban him in 2020?

Seems to me like they had monetary incentive to remove the Doc.

[–] wccrawford@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Because what he did wasn't illegal. It was just wrong. They didn't want anything to do with him any more, but he didn't break the law and so they couldn't use that part of the contract to terminate it.

They felt it was so wrong that they paid him $20mil to break that contract. They absolutely would have taken another option if it was viable.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Seems like an easy thing to put into contracts. Like, who would argue against that clause?

[+] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not defending any potential actions he took, but:

There are laws about sexting minors, so if he had done that then he would have broken it and they would have plenty of evidence of that.

If nobody above 18 is morally justified to be in a chat with anybody under 18 then we've got some serious societal level issues to fix.

EDIT: And btw they tried to get out of paying him 20M, but realized they had no grounds to do so when he started his lawsuit. They had incentive, here. They wanted to not pay him.

[–] wccrawford@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are things that you shouldn't do or say to minors that aren't illegal, but anyone reading them would still know it's it's unethical/wrong/immoral/whatever. They clearly thought he crossed that line, enough that they'd rather fire him and take a chance on losing the court case for damages for breaking the contract. And then they lost that court case.

It clearly wasn't just "a chat with a minor". The rumors I've heard is that he was attempting to make plans to meet up with them at a convention. That would definitely be in the "big no no" category for a celebrity talking to a minor, even if nothing untoward was suggested in that conversation.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 0 points 4 months ago

But rumours are just that, at the end of the day.

[–] PoopMonster@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He literally tweeted admitting it though...

[–] Mojave@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He was coerced by the police, they were twisting his nuts to get that fake confession out of him, this was collusion between the shungite union and the police union.

[–] jprice@kbin.run 1 points 4 months ago

Maybe David Icke can predict Docs future!

[+] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

He never tweeted that he "sexted a minor."

Link to HIS TWEET

"These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more."

Now, I personally pretty regularly say a lot of shit that can be considered "inappropriate," but that does not equate to sexual on its own. I'm interested in seeing how this story develops, but it seems most people have already made up their minds and branded him a criminal.

[–] person420@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you're a 40 y/o texting "inappropriate" things to a minor, you should have your twitch contract cancelled too.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you're a 40 y/o entertainer using your exclusive platform's built in chat to engage with your fans and audience without a filter, you haven't done anything wrong. What do you call inappropriate? Using the word ass, either figuratively or literally? Talking about hemorrhoids? Religion? Marijuana? There really is no information to work with here, and Doc couldn't provide it even if he wanted to.

[–] person420@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This isn't a case of a streamer talking to a viewer through chat. This is a case of an adult private messaging with a minor in a self admittedly "inappropriate" manner. Doc might have said after the fact that he didn't "intend" on following through with his messages, but when an adult, even jokingly, is making plans to meet up with a fan at a convention who is a minor, that's a BIG red flag.

Twitch had no choice but to ban him. What if they did nothing and he did end up meeting up with them? What if it turned into SA allegations and it was found out that Twitch was aware of this? I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want my kids talking to an adult over private messages full stop. Let alone if the content was "inappropriate".

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -1 points 4 months ago

"Leaning inappropriate". And it was through Twitch's message system. Also no confirmation on a meetup, that is hearsay, but hypothetically if Doc said he would be at a convention in character that itself isn't a red flag. Markiplier meets kids at conventions all the time, gets autograph lines out the doors.

Twitch already "did nothing". The supposed chat logs were from 3 years before his ban.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

[–] jprice@kbin.run 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It wasn’t reported until 2020. They were sent in 2017.

That’s how it usually goes. Weirdo does thing. Weirdo gets big and thing comes to light.

Weirdo gets dropped.

Weirdos defend weirdo.

Fans hearts get broken and denial sets in.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I would be very surprised if an 3 year statute of limitations were somehow involved in all of this. And I'm not defending the Doc's actions or statements, I AM saying "we don't know." Because we don't.

[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There is a sizeable gap between "beyond a reasonable doubt" in terms of a very specific law, and things that are gross/immoral.

People keep questioning the timeline as a defense... They might not have known until 2020. It's normally against internal company policies to just look through people's DMs. It's not like someone's job is to rifle through them. They probably were made aware of it, and then took action.

That's speculation on my part, but if Twitch sat on it for 3 years, shame on them too, but that doesn't so shit for this guy. It was still not ok.

The monetary incentive was to pay out his contract so they didn't have a VERY public story about a VERY high profile streamer inappropriately messaging a minor with their service. That could be super damaging for Twitch. So they likely paid it out to try and bury the story.

[+] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't seem like such a large gap or grey area to me. You can tell a woman "Nice T-Shirt" and that is fine but "Nice Tits" is not fine, it's a pretty clear division to me. What could the Doc say that would qualify him as the monster people are calling him but also not illegal?

They attempted to not pay out his contract btw. He had to sue them to get that, and they payed it out. If they had evidence of such behavior from him then I'm sure courts would agree that his own actions destroying his own public image would have been more than enough reason to cancel the contract.

[–] RedSeries@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I see you have access to what was said then. At least... I assume you do to try and split hairs defending a man who has admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -3 points 4 months ago

The fuck? Where did I defend him?

I'm just dismissing delusions and mass hysteria by presenting what we do know versus what we don't. I don't NEED access to what was said, my entire statement is that we don't know what was said.

[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago

Dr kid inspect

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Dude has it all and threw it away for a chance of sex with a minor

They not like us

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

DrNotLikeUs

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago

Maybe Doctor Dre needs some talk some sense into him.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Four years after gamer celebrity and streaming star Dr Disrespect, 42, was banned from Twitch for undisclosed reasons, reports emerged this week that he had allegedly used the Amazon-owned platform’s direct messaging feature to send sexually explicit texts to a minor.

Renowned for playing battle royale shoot-em-up games in character as a kind of alpha jock sporting a thick mustache and mullet wig, he had signed a major multiyear deal with the company that March.

(Full disclosure: the primary author of this article, Rod Breslau, first learned the reason for Beahm’s ban from credible sources in June 2020, but chose not to report on it then due to the extreme sensitivity of the topic.)

“I went through a lengthy arbitration regarding a civil dispute with Twitch and that case was resolved by a settlement…But trust me when I say this…to all my haters that live and breath [sic] social media with zero real life experience, I don’t give a fuck about you.

As some of its streamers faced a flood of sexual misconduct allegations in June 2020, Twitch created an incident response team codenamed “Gold Sparrow” to develop a process to investigate and take action on the reports as one unit, the former employee says.

YouTube’s former global head of gaming partnerships at Google, Ryan Wyatt, confirmed to Rolling Stone that Beahm was not offered a contract due to chatter about the circumstances of his Twitch ban.

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

How's the doc gonna get out of this one?

[–] Titou@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Guess his name fit him well