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Knox, 36, hoped to overturn conviction for wrongly accusing a bar owner of murdering British student Meredith Kercher

A Florence court has upheld a slander conviction against Amanda Knox for wrongly accusing a bar owner of murdering the British student Meredith Kercher.

The American, 36, had asked for the conviction to be dropped, saying she had returned to Italy in the hope of “clearing my name once and for all of the false charges against me”.

She cried when the sentence was read on Wednesday and told her lawyers: “I didn’t expect it, I’m very disappointed,” the Italian news agency Ansa reported.

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Italy's justice system is wildly fucked up. Read the details of this case: she was detained and questioned under extreme duress for hours with no lawyer or interpreter present while the police lied to her. She eventually gave in and named someone else who might have done it.

That's it. She didn't go out in public and accuse this guy. She didn't give his name to the press. She just offered up a name as a potential suspect to the police after being questioned without an attorney in a country where she only speaks basic Italian and didn't have an interpreter. So Italy sentenced her to 3 years in prison for that. Luckily for her that was served at the same time as the 4 years she did for not murdering anyone.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

They prosecutor general also accused her of doing it for a satanic ritual. The dude has cussed several people of that. The rag The Dailymail ate it up and pushed that angle. She honestly should be suing then for defamation along with that bitch Nancy Grace.

[–] buttfarts@lemy.lol 19 points 5 months ago

Italy prosecutes scientists whenever a volcano blows up without warning. The medieval peasant mentality is strong.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 32 points 5 months ago (4 children)

This illustrates the importance of going full "shut the fuck up Friday"-mode when being interrogated by police. Name, date of birth and country of origin. Nothing else until you have a lawyer sitting next to you.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

True, and Italian police are a special breed of grotesque. Italy's "justice system" is almost purely theatrical. Evidence and facts are not valued in Italian policing or Italian courts the way they are elsewhere in the world.

If you are accused of a crime in Italy, you are in deep shit. Innocence is absolutely no defense in Italy, even if you can scientifically prove your innocence. Facts do not matter. The public's emotions and opinions are all that matters in an Italian court case.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is useful in the US. Not so sure how useful it is in Italy. Different countries have different rules for interrogation. Those differences are generally not something a 20 year old looks up when studying abroad.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 11 points 5 months ago

Shutting up is useful in every country. If you are in a country that refuses to provide you with a lawyer you are fucked anyway so you might as well shut up.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

~~Miranda rights aren't a thing in other countries.~~

Actually, it seems many countries do seem to have some degree of "right to silence", although some can use an "adverse inference" against you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_silence

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Even more reason to shut the fuck up. If you are in a country that will punish you for refusing to make statement without a lawyer you are already fucked either way so you might as well shut up.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

Actually, it seems many countries do seem to have some degree of "right to silence", although some can use an "adverse inference" against you (the UK)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_silence

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 26 points 5 months ago

ACAB and Italy is still trying to save face over this travesty of justice.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago

If that were me I'd never step foot in Italy or the EU ever again once I was freed.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

Overall, we rate The Guardian Left-Center biased based on story selection that moderately favors the left and Mixed for factual reporting due to numerous failed fact checks over the last five years.

Detailed Report

Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: United Kingdom Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: Newspaper Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY