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The "appearance" button seen on Dutch wikipedia is able to change the SIZE of the font (text) and the width of the article. This is extremely nice to have, but it's not there on any English article...

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[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 78 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I don't know what the answer to your question is, but I love the way tekst is spelt.

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Vash63@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago
[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago

yea I guess it has a visual ring to it

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Breed groot pagina

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact: in Dutch the word pagina is pronounced exactly the same as vagina

[–] watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, not exactly the same, but they rhyme, yes.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Pagina schmagina

[–] starman@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Besides Dutch, tekst is a word used in Albanian, Danish, Estonian, Icelandic, Norwegian, Polish, Serbo-Croatian and Turkish

[–] nawa@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Also in all Cyrillic languages since those don't have an X letter and have to use ks (кс) instead

[–] Manzas@lemdro.id 2 points 5 months ago

Lithuanian has tekstas it is just two letters away from tekst .

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

And in Finnish we use "teksti"

SMS is "tekstiviesti"

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Scandinavian languages also spell it like that, as it's closely related to Dutch without (much) french influence.

The only words I can remember that we spell with X as place names such as Texas and Mexico.

Edit: dutch, not german

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I speak German, but in German it's spelt Text.

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In Swedish we spell it text.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, you swedes also eat Kex, if my memory serves me right. X seems a lot more common in swedish than noggie.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

We Finns use ks instead of x as well.

Alexander would be Aleksanteri and so forth.

I wanted to make a joke about the Swedes but then I googled it and there was a thorough Quora answer, so I'll link that instead.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-X-used-a-lot-in-Swedish-but-not-in-Norwegian-and-Danish

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 58 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Current Setting: Breed Groot

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

~~Droom groot~~ Breed groot

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It does have it but its in the settings menu instead. I believe the different language versions of Wikipedia are maintained by different groups so that's probably why.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

this settings page does not exist on desktop, only on the mobile version. If I go to en.m.wikipedia.org I can see it on desktop, but it's not on en.wikipedia.org. It also does not save settings from mobile version to desktop version...

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Individual Wikipedias have individual designs and Individual design features.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

is there no overhaul to copy ideas from one to another? Or overseer to somewhat keep a consistent theming?

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Technically these kinds of things are decided by the Wikimedia Foundation but they'll usually not do things that the editing community of the local wiki doesn't want.

In 2014 the WMF forced a new software feature (Media Viewer) on all wikis and enforced this by "superprotecting" the JavaScript on the German-language Wikipedia so local admins (who at one point even blocked the Deputy Director of the WMF from editing) couldn't disable the new media viewer. The WMF doesn't really want these kinds of constitutional crises to happen again.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I remember when "new" Wikipedia came out with big press I was confused because it had already been in use on the French wiki for months.

My guess is as the biggest wiki, the English wiki is naturally more conservative on the rollout of new features.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

other languages are just guinea pigs for the English wiki I gather

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

I would be very surprised if it wasn't voluntary, as far as I know each Wiki is maintained independently with very little oversight.

[–] TheEEEdiot@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago

This is all a conspiracy by big Font.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

buys Dutch bathroom scale and turns into Marvel character

Ik ben Groot!

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I actually wonder if he's still called that in Dutch.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You and me both 😁

Update: I checked and apparently they pronunciation is significantly different so that he doesn't in fact just go around bragging about how big he is πŸ˜†

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I love how funny they can make it.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Okeydoke, fixed!

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I like to use Wikiwand, it's a browser addon that overhauls the wikipedia UI.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was curious so I added it and now Wikipedia is full of ads. No like.

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's weird, I don't see any ads when using it. Are you using the official extension? https://www.wikiwand.com/

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You may be using something that counteracts the ads. Such as an ad blocker.

Ah yeah that's probably it

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I added it through Firefox extensions. I can upload a screenshot if it's helpful.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

TIL we have it. That is very useful, thank you!

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's a default feature for all non-English languages to account for potential writing system differences? May not make as much a difference for other languages using the Latin alphabet, but maybe for East Asian scripts or Arabic or Hindi etc., they don't want to assume the default layout is as readable as it is for English?

Just a shot-in-the-dark guess.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

well the english wiki does have the wide layout option through the square button on the bottom left, ever since the new layout revamp. Just not the font size option.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 1 points 5 months ago

Maybe the firefox reader button can help but it kind of messes the whole formatting of the page

[–] simple@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's a button in the bottom right to make the page wide. As for text size, I guess it's kind of redundant since you can just zoom in the page.

[–] dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

using the browser zoom makes the layout narrower again, as if it's actively trying to reverse the wide layout by the button in the bottom right. It makes the page very weird looking. Just far from ideal.

EDIT: it's also very inconvenient since my browser saves the zoom level per website (not between en.wikipedia and nl.wikipedia) so the zoom would always be off when going from one article to one in the other language.