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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The breakup of Live Nation And Ticketmaster would be like having the greatest wet dream of my life.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] brimnac@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

“I’m so close…”

[–] Tolstoshev@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

The DOJ wants a “win” so they will settle for a couple hundred million and claim victory. Nothing will change.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ticketmaster exists to arbitrage between your favorite band's reputation and the economic conditions of the venues where they might perform.

[–] becool@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In other words, everyone, including your favorite bands, likes things the way they are. Things will not change unless the fans take a stand, which means things will never change.

[–] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

That's not true.

Many bands have been very vocal about how much they dislike ticketmaster. Some have gone to great lengths to avoid ticketmaster or attempt to circumvent many of ticketmaster's practices.

Ticketmaster isn't about keeping you from hating your band, ticketmaster charges fees to be an extra parasite in the industry and encourage scalping on their websites to charge fees multiple times for the same ticket.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Values and artists get a fairly large chunk of the fees

Ticketmaster's real service is being the bad guy to take the heat off venue's and artists

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here's the stupid dumb secret:

Nobody actually has to be the bad guy.

The role of "bad guy" is just stealing.

If nobody is in that role, then ...

... you don't get your stuff stolen.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Capitalists don't just want a lot of money, they want all of the money

[–] Alto@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I should have been more clear. I was referring to the service that TM provides to said venues and artists. Obviously they don't really provide a real service for consumers

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure, but also:

If you have a band,
and someone says "I'll be the bad guy for your band"
... they're just gonna be the bad guy.

Your band isn't actually gonna win anything.
You're just gonna have a bad guy in charge.

Sometimes, when it looks like that guy is just a ripoff, it's really because that guy is just a ripoff. There's no upside. Really, that guy is just ripping you off. No secret, no bargain, no fooling. It's really just money going into that guy's pocket.

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

If Biden kills ticketmaster he will go from league average president to greatest of my lifetime