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[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 127 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In addition to the details above, she also told lawmakers that when she was 15, she was in a car accident. Instead of extending a comforting hand, her mother shoved a camera in her face, she said. She later told CNN that her mother took photos and videos of her on a hospital gurney and posted them to Facebook.

That's just disgusting behavior. I don't think that woman was fit for parenting with or without social media.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

Agreed, but the allure of fame and Facebook/YouTube made this behaviour worse.

Or at least gave the mom the tools to make it worse.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

Her parents were her paparazzi, absolutely heartbreaking.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 124 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Perfect. Zero notes.

Social media should not be for kids.

[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 90 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or, apparently, most adults.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The algorithms designed to keep you there and sell you more are the real poison there, but I can’t say you’re wrong.

[–] Lotarion@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This would make sense when said on Reddit or whatever, but nobody's keeping anyone on Lemmy

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, all the major ones. I’d like to think that Reddit is less affected by it than the rest of them, but I’m not certain that is accurate anymore.

….. I call this “exhibit A” for why I’m on lemmy.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Reddit is or was definitely less affected. I remember an article for SEO people from a while ago about how Reddit was the least valuable "social" media site and all the reddit users were like "of course it is. It isn't social media". Now that reddit admins are taking a more direct approach to delivering content that their users aren't looking for, that has changed.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I can agree with “was”

Now they’re looking to maximize monetisation.

The pattern repeats

[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

Dank memes and Linux shit posting keeps me on Lemmy.

[–] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The only time I even sort of liked social media was when it was only college students. I bet that's what the old internet people thought when I first got online in the eternal September...

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

It’s when they tried to monetise it and then figured out that “to make the most money, we need people to stay on our site the longest” that things went to shit.

The algorithms soon learned that echo chambers of outrage worked great to maximize viewership.

And we all suffer more for it.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Facebook used to just be your class schedule, and you could see the names and school emails of others in your class.

No profile pictures, no likes, not even friends.

It was just a way to email someone from class you thought was cute over the pretext of meeting up to exchange notes. That was all anyone used it for, for like the first year.

But Myspace and others already existed at that point, and it was always open to anyone. Only Facebook restricted it to people with .edu emails.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Facebook absolutely had profile pictures when it was school only. Everyone rated who they would fuck with it.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was at one of the first three schools that had it when it rolled out.

So maybe by the time it was open to any .edu address there was pictures?

But when it first launched to those three schools, no one had pictures, you had to at least remember your crush's name, not just pick them out of a lineup.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How long was it like that?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

It was literally 20 years ago... And I'm going off memory...

I know it would have been less than a year before pictures and friends, because it was always a huge joke about how many friends someone had, especially with one of my roommates at the time.

I think it went:

Single profile pic

Friends

Wall

Photo galleries

Tagging people

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

McCarty said family vloggers should be regulated like the film industry, citing as an example a California law that mandates 15% of all child performers’ earnings be set aside in an interest-earning trust.

This is way too little in my opinion. It shouldn't be allowed in the first place. Any amount of earnings that relies on your children necessarily creates a conflict of interest and safety hazard. If you monetize your platform, no part of it should include minors, especially minors for which you are a guardian.

[–] BurningnnTree@lemmy.one 10 points 5 months ago

Agreed. Also this law can't even be enforced. Unless they're just passing this law so that abused influencer children will have legal grounds to sue their parents. But we should be passing laws to prevent the abuse in the first place.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is HORRIBLE! What about PARENT'S RIGHTS? KIDS don't have Rights! ONLY Parents do!

-Republicans trying to Save The Children.

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

His wife is his daughter. Double ownership. /s

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 months ago

Yeah I have a 14 year old cousin who's entire life was documented on facebook and I've just been waiting for this movement to happen

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

we just had a kid, and we share the occasional photo of them on facebook. Usually really nice pictures, designed to make sure it wont impact them in the future.

Anything more personal is sent via direct chats, text messages, ect.

Cant image sharing personal details about my kid, the kind which would haunt them for years down the road.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yep. I never post about my kids online, and never have. I will share photos and news directly with my own family over email, or our private discord server, but that's it. I also forbid my family from talking about me on social media other than in generic terms.

[–] Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Have you considered switching to Matrix or Signal over Discord?

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Signal is pretty good

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yes. Such a pain in the a$$ to get the family to switch though. I use Matrix myself all the time.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While that is better, that company still has access to all your content that is hosted there, as I understand it.

This might not seem bad but in case of a leak, breach or similar (which happens often sadly) everything is out there, too.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

And when the hosting company gets bought, a whole new bunch of people will suddenly be in control of all your content, public and private, deleted or not, complete with copyright (even if limited), and all the freedom to immediately change TOS.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah, about that. Discord is a privacy nightmare, so how about, no. A simple group chat would do, hell even WhatsApp has more encryption and privacy protection than discord.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

I kind of miss the early days of social media when people weren’t posting about their kids 24/7. Granted, people weren’t posting about their kids because in the early days, most of us on social media didn’t have kids.

All the kid pictures replaced all of the other fun content, they lured the grandparents to the platforms, and the grandparents just wanted to talk about kids and shitty politics.

[–] stufkes@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

I'm really glad this is happening. I will never forget Coby from Daddyofive.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago

Well written article. The comparison to child actors and the idea that social media kids have no "home" to go to because the camera is always there really makes a whole lot of sense.

[–] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago

Kids of vloggers being regulated like child stars is definitely a compelling idea. Not sure how you would actually enforce that since there’s no registration as an influencer’s kid with a governing body (like child stars do with SAG), but it’s definitely a better way to go.