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Houthis are to Yemen what Hamas is to Palestine
A fundamentalist sect that needs to be purged for the greater society they parasitically latched onto to be able to even have a chance at prosperity.
And, like Hamas, the primary actor interested in purging them isn't much better than they are.
Talk about a shitshow.
Takes scum to know scum it seems, or maybe it's the proxy war that Iran and KSA have been roiling the region with that involves them not being able to agree on anything except "Not a democracy."
But actually purging them would be literal genocide, right?
MAn I've been served some shit on this site for calling out the houthis for shooting at civilians.
Like, Israel shooting at civilians is wrong. Hamas too. Anyone.
Thank you!!! It's like people can't keep two thoughts in their head at once.
Dis guy bad, his enemies good! I'm smart!
Holy shit. The Baha'is got mentioned. How'd that happen?
The frustrating thing is both Hamas and the Houtis are as powerful as they are because of the massive suppression of alternatives by the various powers at play in their respective conflicts.
Israel picked Hamas to be it's enemy. They suppressed the alternatives and funded Hamas.
In Yemen the government in the North and the Saudis are much more interested in fighting the Houtis than allowing the pro democratic forces to become ascendant.
This whole situation is the fault of US allies.
In Yemen the government in the North and the Saudis are much more interested in fighting the Houtis than allowing the pro democratic forces to become ascendant.
Which pro-democratic forces are those, again?
Al-Hirak is the most prominent
I like this Jacobin writeup of the recent history in Yemen if you'd like more context
You do realize that the STC is part of the Saudi-backed government at this point, right
Saudi Arabia controls SCP? We're fucked!
You had me in the first half. Then you pissed all over it by blaming "eu allies" instead of the actual ones at fault. Saudis, Israel, conservativism, etc. Edit: meant us allies, not eu
Without once mentioning Iran either which is certainly a deliberate choice considering the subject.
You might reread my last sentence, I didn't say anything about the EU.
The amount of material the US supplies to both Israel and the Saudis amounts to complicity. The tendency for the US to covertly cause coups throughout the world goes beyond complicity. The resulting government are almost always authoritarian and always support US economic interest. If Israel and the Saudis weren't there to serve the US's interests they would install someone who would.
I wish it was a simple issue of conservatism in the states causing this problem but is seems to be nonpartisan.
That'd definitely describe hamas too.
Haven't heard about their thoughts on the baha'is but it's not hard to guess
Not disagreeing, just recently found out what semitic actually means and find it both hilarious and very alarming to call arabs "anti-semitic".
Etymology and semantic meaning are not the same.
Yes, EXACTLY, that's why I called it "very alarming", because the common meaning is becoming the polar opposite of it's original meaning. Semitic used to refer to the people of the middle east, and now we're changing the meaning to only include Jews (even worse in the context of Israel, where half the bloody population is from Europe). Calling any arab or palestine supporter anti-semitic, is like calling Ukrainians and Ukraine supporters anti-slav. The way it's starting to be used is very aggressive and basically denies the right of the group to identify as their own people.
No.
Semites is an outdated racialized grouping of all dwellers of the middle. It was introduced in the 1700s and is completely outdated, because WE DO NOT USE RACIAL THEORIES ANYMORE. This name is also only based on the idea, that all middle eastern people have a biblical ancestor, Sem.
The only two modern uses are: The Family of Semitic languages which encompasses Arabic and Hebrew, but also Maltese, Amharic and Aramaic. And its these Semitic speaking peoples that are SOMETIMES, often in an archeological context, referred to as Semites.
The term antisemitism was first coined in 1860, as catch-all term for hatred of semites (once again, the ridiculous racial category grouping all middle eastern people into one). Wanna know when that changed? 10 years later. It was used in 1871 in Germany as sciency sounding name for Judenhass "Hatred of Jews". We are not changing the meaning of antisemitism, the word has had this meaning for 150 years. And the only justification to reverse that is to pretend that either the racial categories of the old days exist, or that antisemitism somehow encompasses both the Maltese and Ethiopians.
Ok wow, actually looked it up... Wtf??? Why does semitic and anti-semitic have a completely different definition? Man fuck this shit... I admit I didn't look into it enough before forming an option, but who the fuck would separately look up "something" and "anti-something"??? Once I found semitic it lead me down the semitic languages and the history and bla bla route, not the btw this word has a different meaning in its negative form. Wikipedia even has a whole section dedicated to just how bullshit this is.
Tho tbh it doesn't really change my feelings about the word. It still comes across as extremely problematic to use. Honestly it just seems like 100x worse now that I know the origin is a literal nazi conspiracy theory that hijacked the word and both versions are floating around today. With this context, calling arabs anti-semitic is calling them literal nazis, which I'd argue is worse than just "anti self existence".
And before I star sounding too dismissive, thanks for the info, twas surprisingly and eye opening.
I mean, arabs can also be nazis. I dont think the problem lies within the word or the usage, but the application. Because pretending criticism of Israel is antisemitic or "Judenhass", whatever you wanna call it, thats the real problem.
The houthis are definitely word we can agree upon to mean hating jews. The fact that they are Arabs does not change this. So in the end, i find the discussion around the word very weird.
Didn't they found out why America doesn't have healthcare?
Is there any evidence to the child brides or aid diversion accusations?
Oh damn, have we tried bombing the fuck out of them? That is bound to lead to a more liberal society.